ppo corp., down 18%. and abve, which was 57% higher. he is the chief market at bruderman brothers. ni to ha you back. >> thanks for having me. >> deregulation and good dividends, that's theme. your first stock is royal dutch shell. what's the dividend like? >> well, the dividend is pretty good. it's above 5%. and more importantly, as president trum just announced that he is planning to open up offshore drilling, explorers like royal dutch shell are really going to win in this. this is going to take some time. through that speculative process, as to whether it happens or not, these shares are likely to climb solidly. it's a strong company, good dividend, in a good environment where growth is picking up globally. >> verizon is your next pick, a very competitive space in which verizon operates, obviously. but you think the repeal of net neutrality will make verizon a winner. how and why? >> amongst others, but verizon is somebody that's pushing out content, and they're able to raise prices. they're the market leader out there, both in terms of cellular but also business services that