prabhakar: yes. it is not a business where you get to tell on a quarterly basis if you are making your numbers, and the word that gets used a lot is metrics. if you are in the r&d business, everything you can measure mr. going to not tell you much actually -- measure is not going to tell you much actually. number one, you are aiming for huge impact in the future. whatever you are doing r&d, your ultimate impact will be in a future that is too far out for you to manage on a day-to-day basis. and the art

prabhakar: yes. it is not a business where you get to tell on a quarterly basis if you are making your numbers, and the word that gets used a lot is metrics. if you are in the r&d business, everything you can measure mr. going to not tell you much actually -- measure is not going to tell you much actually. number one, you are aiming for huge impact in the future. whatever you are doing r&d, your ultimate impact will be in a future that is too far out for you to manage on a day-to-day basis. and the art of r&d is for going out how to tell whether or not you are on track to that goal or sometimes a different, even better goal that might open up new prospects, and figure out what can you observe in real-time. when you are managing eight darpa program, what you are looking for is, are the teams coming together and working constructively? are they hitting interim milestones? is the research they are generating really vibrant and exciting and interesting or pretty incremental? that is what you scale by. yo

prabhakar: yes. it is not a business where you get to tell on a quarterly basis if you are making your numbers, and the word that gets used a lot is metrics. if you are in the r&d business, everything you can measure mr. going to not tell you much actually -- measure is not going to tell you much actually. number one, you are aiming for huge impact in the future. whatever you are doing r&d, your ultimate impact will be in a future that is too far out for you to manage on a day-to-day basis. and the art of r&d is for going out how to tell whether or not you are on track to that goal or sometimes a different, even better goal that might open up new prospects, and figure out what can you observe in real-time. when you are managing eight darpa program, what you are looking for is, are the teams coming together and working constructively? are they hitting interim milestones? is the research they are generating really vibrant and exciting and interesting or pretty incremental? that is what you scale by. yo

prabhakar: yes. it is not a business where you get to tell on a quarterly basis if you are making your numbers, and the word that gets used a lot is metrics. if you are in the r&d business, everything you can measure mr. going to not tell you much actually -- measure is not going to tell you much actually. number one, you are aiming for huge impact in the future. whatever you are doing r&d, your ultimate impact will be in a future that is too far out for you to manage on a day-to-day basis. and the art of r&d is for going out how to tell whether or not you are on track to that goal or sometimes a different, even better goal that might open up new prospects, and figure out what can you observe in real-time. when you are managing eight darpa program, what you are looking for is, are the teams coming together and working constructively? are they hitting interim milestones? is the research they are generating really vibrant and exciting and interesting or pretty incremental? that is what you scale by. yo

federal research amid global competition with white house science and technology director arati prabhakaryou can also watch it on speeds -- on c-span now and online at c-span.org. >> the house will be in order. >> c-span celebrates 45 years of covering congress like no other. since 1979, we have been your primary source for capital health, providing balanced unfiltered coverage of government, taking you to where the policies debated and decided. 45 years and counting, powered by cable. >> chad wolf is with the america first policy institute and serves as the executive director for the center for homeland security

prabhakar: great to be with you. [applause] obama is among those speaking at a rally for kamala harris. live coverage on c-span. >> wow. what a crowd. i have one question for this crowd, are you ready to win? are you ready to elect kamala harris and tim walz? and are you ready to help me win this united states senate seat? all right. now, isn't it great to have president barack obama with us tonight? i'm going to introduce him in a moment. i've got a couple things to say first. we are so grateful you are here tonight. you are here tonight because you love our country. that is why you are here tonight. and i cannot thank you enough for loving your country enough to be here with us tonight. this is a fight this year about a lot of key issues for families. but i think at the core of this campaign, at the national level, here in pennsylvania, it is a fight about two rings. the first is rights. the fight for voting rights, women's rights, workers rights. all on the line. but this is also a fight about working families, ab

francisco several months ago and then he had a little roundtable of of and it's like i you know, artie prabhakar, who's, you know, works on science and technology and the biden administration. she says, like, well i'm inviting you out because you're the only optimist. you know, like you're you're the only one who has a positive use case, you know. so we literally i remember we were in that room and, you know, people talking about really scary things, which i agree are risks. like imagine someone creating deepfakes of a run on a bank that can create a, you know, global a financial contagion like these real risks we have to protect against. and, you know, after people talked about these like apocalyptic things, i was like, oh, but it could also really help kids learn. it could also help teachers with great lesson plans. and now we have to put guardrails. we have to make sure it can't be used for cheating and we have to make it transparent to the user and. i think there are ways and we're building and this is the other thing. i don't want to be someone who philosophize and just i'm a techno optimis

federal research amid global competition with white house science and technology director arati prabhakar. you can also watch it on speeds -- on c-span now and online at c-span.org. >> the house will be in order. >> c-span celebrates 45 years of covering congress like no other. since 1979, we have been your primary source for capital health, providing balanced unfiltered coverage of government, taking you to where the policies debated and decided. 45 years and counting, powered by cable. >> chad wolf is with the america first policy institute and serves as the executive director for the center for homeland security and immigration. immigration with the former acting homeland security secretary in the trump administration from 2019 the 2021. welcome back to the program. guest: thanks for having me. host: a little bit about the institute itself, what is it and how is it funded? guest: the america first policy institute is a 501-c3 institution, we are a think tank and we started in 2021 shortly after the end of the trump administration. we've been going on for 3.5 years with about 16 differe