prater? not provide for the reimbursement of the expenses for coming to work to be well rested. they do not pay for hotel rooms where you start and and your trip. part of the problem problem, senator, the system does not provide for a mechanism to provide the pilots with a decent salary because we have a marketplaces some with over 160 failures of airlines. we keep calling the airlines something that what they are parker regional carrier? a flight from canada to mexico. we need to get away trying to pigeonholed because they fly just 50 passengers. >> one of the things that we discussed the are you believe the regional pilates, some of them are flying shorter flights but the flight time is more stressful because it involves more takeoffs and landings and actually doing more during that time. wonder should we take that into account as opposed to looking at time in that her? >> yes. take that issue into account of the frequency of the legs and the workloads that involves. it is interesting that

captain prater? would say, most carriers do not provide for the reimbursement of the expenses for coming to work to be well rested, so they don't pay for hotel rooms where you start and end your trip. part of the problem senator, is that the system doesn't provide for a, a mechanism to provide the pilots with a decent salary, because we have a marketplace system that we have had over 160 failures of airlines. we keep saying and calling these airlines something other than they are. a regional carrier, what does that mean? >> fly from candidate to mexico. these are airliners. we need to get away from trying to pigeonholed them because they are flying just 50 passengers. >> one of the things we have discussed is arguably the regional pilots, some of them are flying shorter flights, their flying time is more stressful because it involves more takeoffs and landings and they are actually doing more during that time and i wonder mr. voss should be taken into account as opposed to simply looking-- >> thank y

captain prater, welcome. you may proceed. >> thank you.chairman dorgan, ranking member diment, member office subcommittee. thank you for having us here today to represent the airline pilots association international. pilot fatigue has loomed as a safety issue for our union since it was founded in 1931 during the difficult years following 9/11, these long-standing concerns have intensified with bankruptcy, concessionaire contracts and the layoff of thousands of pilots, forcing many of those who are still working to fly longer hours and more grueling schedules. it is a dire situation that i have experienced in my own cockpit. just one example from several years back. flying on the back side of a five-day trip that took me from newark to japan and back to newark, my copilot and i were so fatigued from crossing and recrossing numerous time zone wake to make a pre-dawn landing during a stop in honolulu. at that time i was in command of a 767 with overly 240 passengers on board. while this segment was legal to fly with only two pilots, because i

jim: berate -- prater from 46 yards to tie the game. the kick is good!center. 27-27 with 17 unanswered by the broncos. phil: no doubt about this one, right down the middle. jim: lonnie paxton, the long-time patriot. long snapper from 2000 through last year. sent it back to berger. got it down to perfection. crater drives it home. phil: think about it, second half. what has the philadelphia eagles offense done? they did get the touchdown throw but it was a pass that could have been intercepted. mcnabb never saw hill. that drive was kept alive by a defensive penalty that was -- i could say it wasn't one but i had a hard time seeing it. and nothing fancy by the broncos' defense. they're just winning the battles. covering one-on-one and keeping donovan mcnabb in the pocket. jim: that touchdown drive the only touchdown drive of the broncos, feeled by two -- eagles fueled by two penalties. see if that offense can be reignited here with six minutes to go. macho harris steps up. fumbles. it's philadelphia football. the second fumble of the game. carrying the bal

captain prater, welcome. you may proceed. >> thank you.n dorgan, ranking member diment, member office subcommittee. thank you for having us here today to represent the airline pilots association international. pilot fatigue has loomed as a safety issue for our union since it was founded in 1931 during the difficult years following 9/11, these long-standing concerns have intensified with bankruptcy, concessionaire contracts and the layoff of thousands of pilots, forcing many of those who are still working to fly longer hours and more grueling schedules. it is a dire situation that i have experienced in my own cockpit. just one example from several years back. flying on the back side of a five-day trip that took me from newark to japan and back to newark, my copilot and i were so fatigued from crossing and recrossing numerous time zone wake to make a pre-dawn landing during a stop in honolulu. at that time i was in command of a 767 with overly 240 passengers on board. while this segment was legal to fly with only two pilots, because it was a

prater my guess is you run the pilates organization and you'll want to say they have a right to commute and they have the responsibility to get the rest before they fly bid you believe there is no issue at all with the substantial commuting that has morphed into the regional carriers? not only the faa but with the employers to find a solution to the problems. this is the reality nine more so than ours and the companies keep moving. the regional characters especially man is a contract then people who have lived in cincinnati 20 years flying at of home-based now have to commute overnight. those decisions go on throughout the system. we need to do a better job working with the carrier's to make sure the pilots if they have to fly to get to work are able to do so quickly come easily, it is a mirror image of the atlas program that you have identified. other operators, cargo operators to the same thing. fedex, ups, they give pilots to if they pick up their flight overseas their systems out there and we can do a better job as a union as employers and the association's letter represented to ens

cratain prater. >> i think we need to understand commuting is a fact of life. whether i am driving to richmond to d.c. that might take me three hours, i am commuting to work. i am starting my day ahead. it comes down to the professional responsibility of what do i have ahead of me that day? if i of clients and easy triple -- if i am flying an easy tripl, i will fly up that morning. if i am flying overnight, i will come of the night before and get some rest during the day. those are facts of the light but we live in now. you have to know your schedule. it is more difficult for reserve pilots. most are within two to three hours of their duty station. it can easily take three hours to get there. you have to plan ahead. i do not see it as a problem. the first officer committed from seattle to add new wornewark tor trip, but what should have been pointed out is she should have floated the night before. it is not just commuting, at the overall issue of how the flight time duty rules work. it was in charge? i think it starts and ends with the captain, but the carrier

host: captain john prater is president of airline pilots association international.message. guest: get the faa reauthorization done. it includes language directing them to update the federal aviation regulations on pilot fatigue. it is the number-one issue before airline pilots today. host: talk to us about pilot fatigue. what would you like to see changed hands -- as far as regulations are things back and help pilots. guest: a set of regulations that recognize the difficulties of different types of flying. let us start with regional or commuter flying, where the pilot can do eight, nine, 10 legs a day. that needs to be put in restricted duty day so that you can do the landings but not have the 16-hour day. that means the pilot could be making his are heard last landing after being up 18, 19, 20 hours and then only get eight hours in a hotel. let us talk about the long-range flying to europe and asia, crossing eight, 10, even 12 time zones. that requires a different system. we have advocated for a matrix that looks at that and provides pilots with enough rest before,