praxair was not the best guitar player in the band, so we needed another guitar player. >> most people do not want to get anywhere near that. i did not even know how to write a song. i was living in echo park a really small $60 a month place, and underneath in an apartment that was probably illegal lives jackson browne. go out late and try to meet girls. i hear the tea kettle going off, and we would hear him playing the piano. he was working on these songs, and he worked on averse he plays six or seven times, and i would roll over in bed, and there would be silence, and i would fall back to sleep, and i would hear that he thought again, and he would play the second verse. he said, that is how you do it. it is repetition and revision. i took that to heart. he was showing me how to write songs. it was a lot of work. dodi marco -- kofi carmichael said, first you have to really want to. it is a challenge. it is one i welcome. i still write songs, because you never know how it is going to turn out. tavis: why have you and do you still want to? >> it is what i am good asset. i am good at wri