i appreciate preet's point. i think the answer has to be no. >> how about that, preet?w a president could sic a mob to congress to scare them to vote their way? >> there are a lot of things the most powerful person in the country can do by speech or deed that i guarantee you would cause senators to be gallop be towards the chamber to impeach, remove, and disqualify, and that would be one of them. >> i think most of that conduct would come under the category of malfeasance in office which the framers specifically intended not be subject to impeachment and removal from office. >> final point, preet? >> i hope the hypothetical is never tested. but i say again, it's a political act. it's not a courtroom trial governed by the rules of evidence and due process like we see in federal and state court. there are certain things we expect a president not to do and many of those things are not criminal in nature. and i hope for the sake of our country we never face an example of that in the future. but this blanket idea that something must meet the elements of a federal or state cr

preet bharara and michael smerconish. preet, what stood out to you today? >> you said it at the top of the show, i think in the first sentence where you talked about foreseeability. the video footage stands out because some of it was new and it's harrowing, and it just makes people, i think, shake once again because of what was averted narrowly, not just what happened, which was terrible. but the real crux of the matter is, not just that these people did these things and that lives were lost, but what was the president's responsibility for it, what was his role in it? i think the most powerful arguments and presentations made today connected up what donald trump said and did and how it was foreseeable that the things he said and did led to that violence. among other things, the fact that he has on prior occasions condoned violence. there was a great presentation that mentioned that bus, the biden/harris bus that was tried to be run off the road by supporters of trump. what did trump do after that? i had forgotten about this. he tweeted a video about it, app

attorney preet bharara. preet, thanks for joining us.fenses, as he's calling them, might we see from the former president's legal team? >> well, i suppose the most significant technical defense is one that they assert in the document they filed with congress and that there's already been a vote about and that is whether or not under the constitution as a technical legal matter you can even have a senate trial if the president is out of office. i think the massive legal expertise on this is against the president. but that's an argument that they'll put forward. according to the document, they also may suggest, and it gets a little technical is the right word, that because it's arguable that there are multiple impeachable defenses described in the single article of impeachment when it comes time for a vote you may not know which senators were voting on which impeachable act in that article. if this was a regular criminal trial with all the rules of evidence and the other obligations of making sure that the verdict was proper, you would hav

but laura when you hear what preet said, do you think that there will be charges? >> i think there is going to be investigations. and the ones that are already happening in terms of the finances, in terms of new york, fulton county, may or may not pan out. she may have made missteps by doing early interviews prior to having witnesses. i don't know how that's going to pan out ultimately. but the idea is here, remember, the doj is going to prioritize the most violent and nefarious crimes before they look at issues that are going to be perhaps or can be guaranteeing a conviction. there are hundreds of people right now who are being charged with actually carrying out the insurrection. and you can bet that the majority of them based on what the defense has said, based on what mcconnell has said today, based on what the house impeachment managers said. they are pointing to following their ring leader, who they thought the president, of course, then trump. and he is going the undercurrent of all of these hundreds of investigations. so not looking at him as a factor in any

preet bharara and michael smerconish. preet, people are talking about ineptness of counsel on behalf of the president's defense. how good a case do you need to have when the jury is in your pocket? >> well, that's the big question. i'm a lawyer and i practice and i've tried cases and i've overseen significant trials. and i've been on the phone all day back and forth, emailing and texting with colleagues and former colleagues of mine about the lawyer's performance and i've seen people on television talking about it. we should be clear. we should not let the inempty to do of the lawyers. as you've been outleaning very eloquently during the whole time at the beginning of the show, that's what matters here. at the end of the day it the jury that counts. the jury that voted notwithstanding how clear the law is. how much consensus there is on the one side of the constitutional question. almost on a party line vote voted against the trial going forward, doesn't bode well for how it will turn out at the he said. so at the end of

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. >> preet, when you look at what was filed by the president's attorneys, they misspelled the united states in their filing right off the top. >> they did. >> how does something like that just fall through the cracks? i mean, is it just -- they're rushing to get it to kinkos to print? >> look, it's not a brilliant piece of legal writing, but to give them some credit and to forgive them somewhat, they don't have a lot to work with. i think the arguments that the president is making and the arguments they must have had to make with their client, the president, given the reporting about a raft of lawyers resigning from the case a few days ago, it's a very challenging thing apparently, both financially because he doesn't like to pay his bills apparently and substantively to represent the president -- this president, former president of the united states, so they don't have a lot to work with. they're being dictated things probably literally probably sentences being dictated by donald trump. they were in a rush because they were only retained recently and this is the product you get. by c

important point when she said there's a need for mosques at work but accommodate deaf people who lead preet. they arrest has moved on to vaccines and whether any are being disposed of at the end of working days and brought a boy says my daughter's boyfriend is a g.p. an edge of and yesterday gave for unused office to entity patients l.w. says this is exactly what's happening to the news doses where my husband works given to staff of patients even have a list of people who might be able to come in at very short notice as appropriate at the end of the day within the north those who should go in the bin well that's great news for us all now which alex he's interviewing renowned anthropologist we think he's with there was welcome back to the simon show thanks very much alex i'm delighted to be here with you with can we revisit after school which caused such a sensation last year in the rolling stone where you postulated was in the trump presidency the end of the american era no drugs gone by didn't send a new president.

important point when she said there's a need for mosques that work but accommodate deaf people who let preet. they arrest has moved on to vaccines and whether any are being disposed of at the end of working days and brought a boy says my daughter's boyfriend is a g.p. an edge in and yesterday gave for unused office to entity patients l.w. says this is exactly what's happening to the news doses where my husband works given to staff or patients even have a list of people who might be able to come in at very short notice as appropriate at the end of the day with the notice or should go in the bin well that's great news for us all now which alex is interviewing renowned anthropologist we deal with there was welcome back to the simon show thanks very much alex i'm delighted to be here with you when can we revisit after school which caused such a sensation last year in the rolling stone where you postulated was in the trump presidency the end of the american era no drugs gone by didn't send a new president you revised your opinions. well yes and no alex you know part of that article was simply loo

important point when she said there's a need for mosques at work but accommodate deaf people who let preet. then us just moved on to vaccines and whether any are being disposed of at the end of working days and brought a boy says my daughter's boyfriend is a g.p. an edge of and yesterday gave for i'm used to assess to end of day patience l.w. says this is exactly what's happening to the news doses where my husband works given to staff or patients even have a list of people who might be able to come in at very short notice as appropriate at the end of the day with the aim that notices should go in the bin well that's great news for us all now over to alex who's interviewing renowned anthropologist we t.v.'s with there was welcome back to the chill thanks very much alex i'm delighted to be here with you welcome.

. >> president trump, he broke tradition by not having his preet assessor have a portrait that his predecessor -- his predecessor have apartment hung up. -- his predecessor have a portrait hung up. will president biden invite? jen: i have no portrait events to preview for you, but i have not been given any indication that we would break with tradition. >> this is an impeachment question. jen: you can ask whatever you want, go ahead. >> does the president believe that former president trump engaged in insurrection as described in section three of the 14th amendment? jen: the president has put out multiple statements conveying that what the president david and his words and actions, and the events of january 6, were a threat to our democracy. he ran against him because he was concerned that former president trump was an -- unfit for office. president trump is not here because president biden defeated him, the american people voted for him, and now his focus is delivering promises to the american people. >> where does the president stand on the effort for california to recall? jen: i have not spo

this was a message she preeted yesterday in her remarks but also the q & a that followed.he european central bank will them european economy every step of the way and she.ed to reasons as to why there are serious downside risks to the european economy. this is a number one worry for the european government that you get a significant implication. we don't know what the vaccine is looking like. there have been many issues and it is still very slow. she repeated the money from the recovery fund needs to be spent well and needs to be delivered and paid out quickly and she repeated in 2020 that the monetaryles to and the fiscal policy was able to come and europe was able to overcome the message that needs to resonate in 2021. annmarie: lagarde made clear the e.c.b. will not cancel debt. why is she reiterating this? >> on friday there was an op-ed published in a number of papers. it is saying that the european central bank should cancel it a and make that money direct investments. every time this debate gains traffic, the alarm starts to to go off there. she was doing the med ya

. >> and preet, let's talk about that. trump's team says in their filing of president trump's lies, quote, the 45th president exercised his first amendment right to express his belief, belief that the election results were suspect. insufficient evidence exists in which a juryist could conclude that the 45th president's statements were accurate or not and therefore denies they were false. obviously, this big lie about the election having been stolen is utter crap and has been found as such by dozens of courts, election boards, everybody who is credible. there is this issue in the law of mens rhea. as george costanza once said, it's not a lie if you believe it. does it matter if donald trump believed it? >> no, i don't think so. he wasn't just expressing his view of what the election results were, whether they were proper or not. kaitlan is absolutely right. you have to look at the context of all of this. the house managers did an excellent job in laying out over dozens of pages the narrative. remember, donald trump was not

today because we will have the guest on later the highcape capital acquisition corp the deal there is preetill join us, jonathan rothberg, who, i mean, was on with butterfly, because that was also one of his inventions, hasn't opened yet. semiconductor chips. proteins as opposed to dna it is decoding proteins which helped with specifically sort of giving you a sense as to what disease you're dealing with, and how to treat it. we'll talk to him a lot about that i mentioned this, though, because in the pipe was kathy wood from arc and that seems to have excited a lot of people as well not a large deal not a large overall spac deal, leslie, when they issued it, but the pipe's almost 500 million. it's got some very well-known names in it, including arc as i said and it will be up sharply. we'll talk to him later and see what he has to say, carl. >> all right, guys, so we are lower across the board it is still on pace for the best month since november for the dow and the s&p, and walmart is dragging about 50 points off the dow. let's get to rick. >> hi, carl. we had some big data today regarding