learned from wall st., not vice versa. >> if nobel peace prize winner is the father of finance, then premal shaw, after pay pal he wanted to take his skills to a whole new level allowing lenders to get started with $25 at a time. premal, thanks for coming on the show. micro finance for the 21st 21st century utilizing the tools of technology, social media, social movements solve problems of eliminating poverty. tell us about it. >> it's almost like match.com meets micro finance. >> the dating site? >> yes. what's so cool about the internet now is you can see about people and learn about them small businesses around the planet who are looking for capital to get started or expand. these are businesses that are underserved by the traditional banking system. that's where micro finance can be powerful. for example a woman in kenya wants to buy a cow to start a dairy business might need $500. you can come through key.org find her profile and then make a loan, not a donation, in twenty-five-dollar increments. when her loan funds from you and maybe 40 other people on want inner net, then we have a local