presidentick johnson, and ceo of the naacp. our first call is from robert in massachusetts. go ahead. caller: hi, ledger and hi, derek. i have a question first about defending. i want to thank the chief. one of the caller talked about the way people were acting on the street. we cannot be focused on that because we will always blame a few people that acted a certain way. this is why she is worried about if we defund the police, where we would be. host: the last segment. this is a new guest. what is your question for the guest? defunding, people should realize that we have a lot of police that become -- that was in the military and come back. they are trained to kill. we must hire people that are mentally ready to be policing people. this doesn't mean that when we called 9-1-1 for a fire, the police come, or when we call 911 someone is in crisis or a heart attack, the ambulance comes. when we have somebody in distress, like an overdose, we don't need to call the police with a gun and a badge. we have a lot of bad apples who show up in a situation they are not ready for. host:

presidentick johnson, and ceo of the naacp. our first call is from robert in massachusetts.ahead. caller: hi, ledger and hi, derek. i have a question first about defending. i want to thank the chief. one of the caller talked about the way people were acting on the street. we cannot be focused on that because we will always blame a few people that acted a certain way. this is why she is worried about if we defund the police, where we would be. host: the last segment. this is a new guest. what is your question for the guest? defunding, people should realize that we have a lot of police that become -- that was in the military and come back. they are trained to kill. we must hire people that are mentally ready to be policing people. this doesn't mean that when we called 9-1-1 for a fire, the police come, or when we call 911 someone is in crisis or a heart attack, the ambulance comes. when we have somebody in distress, like an overdose, we don't need to call the police with a gun and a badge. we have a lot of bad apples who show up in a situation they are not ready for. host: ok,