for the presideo c.d.c., for year one, it is included. and i think the best way to -- for parents who have -- or anybody, for all of us that have questions about what will be in place in 2013 -- the slides that -- that start on page -- slide 42. where it says redesigned transportation, all of the slide after that describe what we're planning to build. so if it is not on here, and -- we would imagine it is going to be phased out in 2012 or 2013. we list the schools that would have service and the & that they would come from. there's some place -- times when we don't though. like those schools that are starkly underenrolled that would fold out. other than that, we would build around that plan. >> commissioner -- commissioner winn. >> thank you. i wanted to -- commissioner wynns. >> this is so difficult but i think this is a fairly good plan considering some of the things that we have talked about in the -- in the past. i think this is -- i think this is -- this is thoughtful phase-in plan. i'd be interested in the community feedback before

available for families as they're looking for alternatives and -- the -- the question about the presideo c.d.c. that is bringing students in the morning, anything we didn't say in the presentation that we're taking away is going to be in place for 11-12. if it is not on there for being removed, it is safe to assume it is going to stay. for sherman, for treasure island, yes, we're looking that in the future vision, the only transportation service to scherrman would be from teixeira cur island because it is a fon contiguous attendance area. we would want to support children's opportunity to go to treasure island, i mean -- from treasure island to go to the attendance-area school. but we're not taking services from sherman in year one. so, it is the status quo for next year and then either in -- in 12 or 13, would be saved up. in terms of additional information, like getting access to information, we -- nobody had answers until earlier today. because we as staff were still working on it. so it is -- it is anandable that if you call the transportation department earlier today and -- our last -- or