here and there, he will jab at prestent trump. outraged by particular twitter messages that the president said and i think that has made it challenginghe for president to engage with him. because really he has stayed fosed on the pandemic and i will say, i spent some time recently in both michigan and wisconsin. he talked about the subban voters. i think that by and large what they're looking for in this moment of time is somebody who is a steady, experienced hand. parts of this country and in people are not looking for somebody who is goin to pick a fight say with bubba wallace and looking for somebody who is going to provide some sort of leadership in this particular moment. robert: toluse, just one more here on the campaign. i was watching vice president pence today in wisconsin. and he kept hammering this theme about vice president biden being too far to theft tying him to socialism. but when you think about that speech by the v.p., and when stefien about bil new campaign manager replacing brad partale what is n for the trump