he needed help, and he found that help with preston taylor. nd as a result of that, the defense would have to try to destroy his credibility. -when you listen to preston taylor's testimony, you will find that he is not credible, that he does have a bias, that he does have an intent to deceive. his testimony is untruthful. it's false. it's imagined. it's erroneous and not credible. during that first interview, you never said anything about liam saying that he was going to kill sarah. correct? -right. -leading up to the time frame in december 2016, do you guys ever begin to talk about specific plans about this money? -yes. -how did those conversations go? -it started off as plans to either burglarize her house or to rob her personally. and over time, the conversations progressed to to killing. -liam's family didn't believe the story that preston was telling police from the beginning. -in every bone in my body, i did not believe liam is capable of killing sarah stern, who he loved and adored. i do not believe liam is capable of killing anybody. -y