seek some form limiting transitional status in which we find ourselves in a permanent political pretoria. that would not be good for britain, nor will it be good for the e.u. instead, i want us to have reached an agreement about our future partnership. by the time the article 50 process has included. from that point onward, we believe the processss of implemementation in which britan and the e.u. institutions and member states prepare for the new arrangements that will exist between us will be in our mutual self interest. this will give businesses another time to play -- enough time to plan. ,his is for immigration control justice systems. but it might be about the future. needach issue, the time we be solved quickly, some might take longer. the purpose is clear. we will seek to avoid the disrupted -- the disruptive cliff edge, and will do everything we can to face in the new arrangements we require as we move toward our new -- our new rid partnership. so these are the objectives we have set. certainly we have possible control of our own laws, strengthening the united kingdom, maintainin

. >> over 100 co-conspirators were on trial every day for four years in pretoria, every day for four when you look at what's happening in america now -- >> oh, god, yes. ( laughter ) >> trevor: -- you look at the movements and what people are trying to start from the ground up. >> sure. >> trevor: i guess i have my experiences as a south african, but i only have those. you've delved into the world of south african existence and now seek americans trying to do the same thing. is there any connection between the two. >> a huge connection goes back to the civil rights movement because you have to remember the apartheid movement was hatching while the civil rights move the was happening here, while the berlin wall and thing in east germany was happening, so all these were interrelated. the world was still very much a small place then, and our behaviors all over the world, we took things from them, they took things from us, we learned things from each other. right now, with this piece, "madiba," we can learn -- it's a refresher course in what i think we need to do as a country in order to

wine, he went as fast and as far as he could to the front, which was now in ladysmith, south of pretoria. by the time he arrived, however, the boers had completely cut off ladysmith. no one could get in or out. i was too late, churchill wrote dismally, the door was shut. so he was forced to make camp 40 miles south of ladysmith in a little town called escort. nine days later, as a heavy rain fell on the morning of november 15, churchill climbed aboard the british army's armored train. his old friend from his days in the military had been ordered to take the train out for reconnaissance. both men knew that it was a foolish, potentially disastrous decision. not only was the train an easy target on the best of days, but the boers had been spotted just outside of escort only the day before. holden had no choice but to go. churchill, on the other hand, did. but frustrated, restless, and he would later admit, eager for trouble, he did not hesitate for a moment when holden invited him to go along. before the sun came up that morning, churchill had climbed into the first train car and open truck