we can go to pretoria and speak to our correspondent, barbara plett-usher.rs telling you? barbara: well, in their own ways, they have been telling me it is a significant election, and we are beginning to see the votes being counted. the results are going to come into here to this center over the next couple of days. and we have seen that the turnout has been higher than expected. it looked like it was higher than the last election in 2019, so that is quite significant. we still have these long queues outside voting stations as the days were ending. so it seems to be quite important for voters, not because they were waiting to cast, you know, to exercise their right to vote, like 30 years ago, in great excitement, because they were unhappy with how they have been governed for the past 30 years by the governing african national congress, the agency. as you -- the anc. as you mentioned, corruption scandals, power cut, and so on. i have found that generally the odor folders -- older voters tended to be more loyal to the anc. one man told me i am voting for mande

south african jurist in the fourth session of this court, which was held at the request of pretoria,the rulings they considered the previous issue to stop the genocide in the gaza strip insufficient. the tin houses and tents of the displaced people in the southernmost part of the gaza strip, namely rafah , must be assembled. the time has come for the palestinian people to bear the burden of their journey from the north of the center. he didn't come here. i came here with my wife and 25 other people from khanyounes, but now we have to go to another place and for a new trip , load their belongings and go to an unknown place before the zionists encroach on noor. gaza 230 thousand people lived in this area of ​​63 square kilometers but with the beginning of the regime's attack and the sending of refugees to the south of the population. it doesn't matter to the occupiers whether these displaced people have gone or not, this is the latest aggression of the zionist regime in rafah province, in the meantime, but south africa, as in the past 7 months , has supported the cause of palestine and

j has ordered some provisional measures since pretoria 1st fall the case in january. but israel has largely ignored them to so count the cost and souls as old as and one that's decisions make any difference apart from effect and will depend in we'll discuss these questions with our panel of experts in a few moments. but 1st, this report flight up to some denford, preparing a symbol of peace outside the international court of justice. well inside israel, defense is ground operations in the alpha, as well as intensifying a full scale defensive in the southern city. despite opposition for many of its allies in the last 12 days, more than 640000 people have fled to tulsa. and israel's military says it's deploying more ground troops. their lawyers were presenting south africa. say that you went, the top court must order extra measures to prevent acts of genocide. it has become increasingly clear the dis, rails actions in rough uh, parts of the end game. this is the last step in the destruction of gaza and this palestinian people for whom the introduction this set of hearin

the olympic track star granted bail today in pretoria. [soft music] i know my brother, and i know his fears. there has been a consistent theme in his life-- being safe-- that has always been a concern because of the practical vulnerabilities that he has. john carlin: oscar pistorius was born in 1986. it was discovered that he had this congenital deformity of his feet. and his two legs were amputated just below the knee. robyn curnow: he was very brave in terms of breaking physical boundaries. i grew up in a family where disability was never an issue, not because it was a topic that was taboo, but it was just never an issue. [light music] john carlin: and he becomes a superstar in the world of paralympics. and he's good-looking. he's got a certain greek god kind of demeanor. i think he saw himself as superhuman. and, you know, look, it was well earned. i mean, he achieved these things on the track that no one could believe he achieved. and that must be a really, really powerful thing to feel when you are born or have the disability that he

how do you view pretoria is initiative and how was it received in africa? would you, can you tell me about that? well, i mean obviously.

why do you think by using pretoria have taken this approach and what does it say about how this piece of it is being viewed? that i think is clear now that there's some kind of, uh bipolar. so you know, structure and instructors are going on over to one of your credit. clearly like you printed out, you will find the us and that the dia on question do not the involve rushed at china and south africa. i know played cute penalties context and therefore it would have expected at this point, something much more costly. dietrich, i'm pulling loosely discussion for peace. i. any person who loves guzman said this is boss of well, the 1st list. so good news. we need to reduce the cost, right? is under. and, you know what to do is click on this one. so it does. if it is 2 possible underwriting to do to good taylor on good to see, but a good look at a strategic issue, driving to wall on the, on the monitors, that it was the focus on content in china, russia, and the fact that russia is been, you know, branded, the digital guys either come coming to of nation. i'm so in a sense, special field iso

this is the fourth meeting the hague tribunal has been held at the request of pretoria since the beginningthe aggression of the zionist regime on the gaza strip . so far, the countries of nicaragua, colombia, libya, maldives, egypt, turkey, iran and belgium have said that they join south africa's complaint against the zionist regime. according to a bill in south africa , the zionist regime has violated the convention on human rights in its invasion of gaza, and the rulings of the court have not stopped the zionists. it is the middle of the previous disaster. in the early days of the war israel declared southern gaza. this is why one and a half million people were concentrated in the small area of ​​rafah, but now the attack on rafah has forced the palestinians to move to areas where there is no water, food and health aid. this forced migration will bring devastating consequences. mohammad hassan nikbeen, sed and broadcasting news agency. and now the second case of tonight's program, which starts with a news, the president of china said that his country is ready. strengthening relations wit

she is in pretoria. the scene behind me has been _ she is in pretoria.opinion polls, that it could lose its majority in parliament and this would be the first time that the anc would be the first time that the anc would not be the majority party in parliament for three decades, since the end of apartheid. stand parliament for three decades, since the end of apartheid.— the end of apartheid. and catherine byaruhanga, _ the end of apartheid. and catherine byaruhanga, iust — the end of apartheid. and catherine byaruhanga, just explain _ the end of apartheid. and catherine byaruhanga, just explain a - the end of apartheid. and catherine byaruhanga, just explain a bit i the end of apartheid. and catherine byaruhanga, just explain a bit more why is the max one coming under so much pressure this time? what have been the key drivers of that? —— why the anc have been under pressure? yes, it is really telling in an anc stronghold like this, when he had spoken to voters there is a real sense of excitement about voting for the anc, they say there are real challenges

this is even less than the distance between johannesburg and pretoria roof. i live in the south of casa with an area of approximately 60 square kilometers this time last yeah. bravo was home to around 275000 palestinians. as a result with israel's on slips, i need to vacuum patient orders covering more than 3 quarters of cause as total territory. $1200000.00 additional palestinians fled into rafa and the order of israel as a place of last refuge. now israel has issued for the evacuation. what is directing palestinians to leave rafa in just the past? week 600000 palestinians have been forced to flee from rafa. but with no way to go, they is a total collapse of infrastructure of sanitation afford to a food supply. in short, the conditions necessary to sustain life for the 2300000 palestinians in gaza. the picture on the screen shows palestinians last month, starting to return to the homes of to israel is withdrawal of its occupation of con eunice. as we can also see, there is nothing left israel's most recent actions in rafa bring it's coordinated plan aimed at

since the start of the israeli aggression on the gaza strip, which is being held at the request of pretoria far, the countries of nicaragua, colombia, libya, maldives, egypt, turkey, iran and belgium have said that they join south africa's complaint against the zionist regime. according to the bill of south africa, the zionist regime has installed the convention on human rights the violation of gaza and the rulings. it is time for the international court of justice to prove that its verdict is not worthless. israel's attack on rafah is the final blow to completely destroy gaza and make it no longer a place for human life. south african lawyers say that the forced resettlement of palestinians from the south to the center and north of gaza means a new humanitarian disaster in the middle of the previous disaster. in the early days of the war, israel announced that southern gaza was safe. for this reason, one and a half million were concentrated in the small area of ​​rafah. but now the attack on rafah has forced the palestinians to they are forced to move to areas where there is no water, food

the decline, i put that question seductive sampling better political sciences at the university of pretoria. south africa, it is on the has not subject to the promise of 1994. and it certainly i think in many areas on the tide in terms of being able to provide for the people that lives here. so that i think that no malice she will be good for so that i think the good i think being this miracle of 1994 and this you know, relatively peaceful transition from the past day to democracy. has been a major big heavy yoke to carry for the country and for the people that lived yet because the expectation of what south africa is um and, and could be, has often been completely out of touch with the reality of, of what it is. and what it was recovery from to because and so i think that a dose of healthy expectations is a good thing to south africa. and, and i think that one of the major uh, kind of hurdles and what i would like to see being focused on from now is to really attend to attack the deep and the quality that is in this country. because the reality is that the country is in some ways more an e

and right now pretoria says a to request to be finds a very necessary to return to the court to speak and age an order on the prevention and punishment of the crimes in the gaza strip. in fact, it says that's the fact that 1500000 people now living in the city. i mean that's a full is really assault under that. so what is a violate? the pool is the of the genocide condition. so more needs to be done by the court. i will listen to this in south africa. can see it is that it is imperative for the call to do more than to reach the rate that the state of ease real remains bound to fully comply with 8 supplications under the genocide convention. as the overwhelming evidence demonstrates the very men in which he is or what is the soonest mitch reparations, and rough uh, and elsewhere and gaza is itself genocide, though it must be ordered to stop. and soon as the previous ruling of several countries, i've come forward to intervene in the case, i'm using a provision that allows 3rd party to join in the proceedings. and those countries include the lives of libya, even it's up to very recently.

how do you view pretoria is initiative and a how was it received in africa? would you, can you tell me about that? well, i mean, obviously of the existing opportunity uh, within the international uh, justice system. uh, 4 countries, uh, all parties to bring such cases. uh and the idea that, uh we have uh, uh, a, an international justice system to deal with a 12 cd crimes with us through the, the uh, genocide convention or rome statute. uh, i think that the, the, you know, countries over the world have come around to an idea of um, international justice and norms in which, you know, countries have to operate in a and we trust that the uh, system works. and that, uh, cases that are brought to uh before, uh, the quotes uh, dealt with of the lead time spot entry. uh and uh, you know, decisions are, isn't it? yeah, yeah, i mean, i mean, you know, optimistic stipends. i mean, i'll have to say it because as you well know, it will be several times within the un security council to result because a conflict with a code by one country traditional way of goals. united s

when, when aged out of the system at 18, you got a partial scholarship to study. drum and pretoria, why didn't you just focus on starting his career? but instead of giving back, this is more of a feeling for me. it's a lot easier to, to get on timeline. just pretend. but it's, it's more meaningful when you're taking someone off of like how i was, you know, i had a lot of people who also helped me. so i wanted to give back considering how a noun, inexpensive skateboarding is, especially for dominic black areas. what made him think that is a possible what we live with sponsored, so they donate scapegoats through the gate club and then the kids in calling a ford escape or you go to the garden, you sign up and then you, you learn about agriculture, how to font organics vegetables, and then you accumulate hours. and then once you've accumulated enough points, you get a free scape, top room, title, self esteem, due to escape warning, and those will talk to me some self discipline understand think oh, that's a big disability. projected this thing because this is the full cause. if you'll to fo

africa correspondent barbara plett usher has more from pretoria. have been quite a significant election. voter turnout was quite high, it looks as if it was higher than the election in 2019, and there were long queues outside voting stations as the day ended — not because people were excited to exercise their right to vote, like 30 years ago, but because they are unhappy with how they've been governed since. there's a lot of anger about high unemployment, high crime, corruption scandals, ongoing power cuts, and so on. i found that the older voters tended to be more loyal to the african national congress, the governing anc, because of that legacy of liberation. one man said to me, "i'm voting for mandela's party "because it gave me dignity." also because they are bit more wary about the new parties thinking they might make things worse. but when it comes to young people, especially those who have not experienced apartheid, they are much more critical. i spoke to a number of them who are voting, or who were voting for other parties — and theirjobs wa

we according to oddity pretoria, on next augusta explaining why african nations do tend to cooperate more with russia and china then from various departments from the west, saying that fan us an honesty or the res, the people in the sign of engagement, said the knight, they are not. ready each day for my associate and frankly, i'm sick today and there are some explore. it seems to me the risk of was petition is all kind of fun. if they weren't associated with the box, when they you, they did some patients in the countries in the us and we got to see like the western country. well, not really lived in countries with most every interview impact of the guy. when on the after the results and they where it's cheapest possible. but we do rush in china is like, yeah, be like it kind of where we would pick up because of these people for all of the go up with them to come to be you got a with the to how to do business with tyler. there's no rush, i don't listen to the main reason panda to the protest us. that's the message from john freshman. a democratic senator in america has a push. it is

here we review how has pretoria responded to the as rarely statements. a well niche sheet off to the attorney said to the country is repeated request for the court ordered as well to stop its military operations against guys that demonstrated. so that because desire to, to preserve how much ruling does that and that it is shocking. that's not africa. elaine bull nation, the full to against racism now aligns itself become muscle, which they refer to as a racist organization so that they could respond to it and said this is not true. in fact, of this issue and dr. issue it also says that it is acting in the name of palestinians who have no independent representation at the you at the, at the you in for a for is those have a listen to this? we do believe that our own intention. yeah, has really been to bring to the full key concerns that i need to national crimes and particularly the kinds of crimes which is the genocide in this case. and we are really serious about that from a human rights perspective. and not essentially your as a list by him, his though

we according to oddity pretoria present, but then has insisted that russia wants to resolve the thing confident through negotiations. but as i says, counts about inc, you by them, is asking if it comes and it gets him at nita as has elected to him, has in fact expired. we do. of course, we realize that the legitimacy of the current head of state is over, who to negotiate with this is of course a fair question. i agree with you. i think that one of the goals of the conference that has been announced the conference in switzerland is precisely to have the wisdom community and the sponsors of the current version confirmed the legitimacy of the incumbent head of state or the inactive one. but these p steps, they do not matter for legal documents, of course. so we would need, if it comes to that. and i proceed from the fact that these folks should be resumed with alternate terms, but with common sense. and they shouldn't be based on common sense. but if it comes to that, of course, we need to understand who we can deal with in order to get through the signing of legally binding documents. a

i'm seeking to join pretoria as case the despite repeated board is by the court is well, has not changed. it's conduct. in fact, it has doubled down on these genocidal aims and asked including by invading the log file, which is a very recent case of sites as well. has repeatedly said it is acting in accordance with international noise. does that. it also says that to the case is baseless and has even accused of africa or functioning as the legal off come us. the ws pro palestinian protest is urging the government to stop sending military aids to as well as they found a friend to me who will so it disagrees with fight and policy republican congressman are pushing for the president to be in page because he switches to hold us offensive age to israel. the initiative comes as a us president made and ultimatums, as well for the major offensive in the city of rafa would result in the hopes of some us west and supplies. the remarks come to the backlash from republicans on some multi written democrats. so make a corey mills argues that there are power, those to trumps, withholding of west insigh

we according to oddity pretoria, but let's now cost a live to old. he on the or you'll close the pun, african, as active as an independent consultant in kenya. so thank you so much for taking the time to joining us and, and you know, if it's something that you say happy african day, then we wish you, oh, i very uh, process, year and date. but 1st of all, so let's talk about a little bit about the, the politics of the country. how strongly do you think the colonial hospital told about the colonial past or present how strongly is a colonial past? and how that affects african relations. today with the west, that is the to yes, because the number of other countries lot of these though, what were some countries and, and leave it in the matrix. if these are my guess 6 days, we've got the so called the dependence. but the c o o colonial rule still remains very strong, strongly africa. so i took a look at the ethic. everybody says the days to uh, what was that one going again the old before the next session because as much as i think that is good. uh, what t

the case the case is well including turkey, which last week said it was also i'm seeking to join. pretoria is case the despite repeated board is by the court is well, has not changed. it's conduct. in fact, it has doubled down on his genocidal aims and asked including by invading the last thought, which is a very recent case such as well has repeatedly said it is acting in accordance with international noise. does that, it also says that to the case is baseless and has even accused. so that's recall functioning as the legal off come us. or in the meantime is was closest ally. the u. s. is torn between disagreement. so but a tel aviv republican congressman now pushing for the impeachment now over jo, bind, and the threatening told us offensive age is well, we'll make a coin. males argues that it resembles the threats that and binding made while he was vice president to withhold support to ukraine. the house has no choice, but the beach brands include pro joe biden. as weiss, president biden was called, threatening to withhold funding and aid. so ukraine, unless they fly that tony general in

as a phrase pretoria has been the one voice that has made it clear that it will not make an enemy out of russian. he does not dom your puts in sole south africa was one of the 1st african countries to point out to the world. the problems africa had to do to the formulation of this. we use that meetings to highlight the damaging effect that of this conflict. to dress you and ukraine is having on african countries and economies contributing to food shortages and the rising cost of living. we believe that our mission was successful in registering the willingness of african lead us to contribute to a new grocery touch piece. and to, to highlight the broad effects of the conflict as we hope that it will contribute in some way to us international peace efforts that are also under way not only approved but also in the african continent. and given the power lows with other nations. when it comes to the political environment in the 1990s, so that because it has a duty to help, lots of so done and the d. c. to bring about stability on the african countries. self africa space given contribution.

as a phrase pretoria has been the one voice that has made it clear that it will not make an enemy out of russian. he does not dom your puts in sole south africa was one of the 1st african countries to point out to the world. the problems africa had to do to the formulation of this. we believe that our mission was successful in registering the willingness of african lead us to contribute to any frustrated piece. and to, to highlight the broad effects of the conflict. as we hope that it will contribute in some way, to us international peace efforts that are also under way not only approved but also in the african continent. and given the power levels with other nations when it comes to the political environment in the 1990s. so that because it has a duty to help to lots of, to don and the seats to bring about stability on the african countries self africa space, given contributions seen the democratic republic of congo over the years for personal, deployed a spot of infantry battalions, helicopter units and mailed to medical teams have been essential to efforts to be bes, as well as to

gaza and has cool so that because genocide, cape bases, and it's even gone as far as the cues in pretoria of acting as the legal arm of mazda. and at this moment we know that it's really forces backing and mom being around god. since fox i've been sitting on the left side and classes of also i'm slid against the again in northern and central areas which is really tubes that 1st into the months ago. and as off we yesterday, according to the new, in nearly 600000 people have been displaced from alaska, including about a 150000 people in the past 2 days. specs and research in man, i would speak international court of justice as cold for these we were hearing that's over. so that's because they just attempted to, to full caesar off to hold it. some of this, a complaint against somebody has some excuse, could assume that to the quote is no likely to issue even stop us or does a gaze, tennessee. russia has been hosting an international economic forum with a focus on the muslim world. we heard from the head of an indonesian experience association who spoke about the vast prospects for investment

we according to oddity pretoria, we spoke with love a couple auto, a journalist at the pan african review news outlet. he was adamant that the confidence freedom is not for sale. it's rebecca, a big difference in the sense that we have the most of the western countries that do have activity on the african continent have a very different idea as to what they want to shift. and it's certainly not to see africa being successful. and that's a fundamental point because what advanced phase is that the nature of these relations certainly seems the 1st to independence appointment. us all the higher in, gone to the right to the, to a knowledge and experience can do for the nature of this relations has not been productive at all in a model in the, in a lot of ways. and still, you know, we are victims of imperialism. these do a lot of that. would it be done? and, but here's the thing that we have. not yet. we africa all to be. we and let's get we, the people who sacrifice the allies in the fight for african stimulation. and they've committed to, for instance. so these that i'm going fights, which of

we, according to our tea pretoria, let us now live to make how was the, the profit is to do is a problem african review outlook social i'm, let's go comment and say to the, is it 5 to, isn't it? so that's a thanks so much for joining us here today on, on. see now. let's start off with how strongly do you think the colonial pos affects african relations with the west today. a good morning rach, a heavy offer today to you also. thank you for having me on the show up before i get your question, i was just want to reiterate the calls that have been made. instantly diary to have the people's published in from american african is also sending the code condolences to the people side. you're wrong with the recent tried to do to get you a question. i think it, all of the slides for independence across africa was a flight that was multi faceted, the chief of my friends, of course, the desire was to gain independence. but when independence they was the last duration for prosperity for daisy and for the whole your report that you just had here, which is very balanced and very informative, really spe

i'm seeking to join pretoria as case the despite repeated board is by the court is well, has not changed. it's conduct. in fact, it has doubled down on his genocidal aims and asked including by invading the last fall, which is a very recent case such as well has repeatedly said it is acting in accordance with international noise. does that, it also says that to the case is baseless and has even accused. so that's your call functioning as the legal off from us. in the meantime is was placed this ally, the us is torn between disagreements. so but a to tel aviv republican congressman of pushing for the impeachment of joe biden, for threatening to hold to us offensive a to is while we will make a core e mails. ok, isn't this resembles this, right? so by didn't made is vice president to withhold support to ukraine? the house has no choice but the beach present. queensboro joe biden. as wise, president biden was called, threatening to withhold funding and aid to ukraine unless they fly, that tony general investigating police might accompany financially benefit of his son hunter, not to mention

i'm seeking to join. pretoria is case a despite repeated old as by the court is well, has not changed his contact. in fact, it has doubled down on his genocidal aims and asked including by invading the last thought, which is a very recent case such as well has repeatedly said it is acting in accordance with international noise. does that, it also says that to the case is baseless and has even accused. so that's recall functioning as the legal off come us a, as in the us, probably palo city in protest is doing the government to stop sending military aids to israel. and they found the front of me who also disagrees with by then policy republican congressman not pushing for the president to be impeached because he's threatens to hold us offensive age to as well. the initiative comes as a us presence made an ultimatum to israel. that a major offensive in the city of rafa would result in a holes of some us west and supplies will not remarks pump. today, backlash from republicans and some motor democrats will make a core e mail as long use that there are parallels to trumps. withholding of

africa, i've always, i said, you know, we don't want to be a positive is why do you think beijing in pretoria taking this approach and what does it say about how the summit is being views? well, you cannot uh, be speaking about uh, conflict and then not inviting uh by the main main players lacresha and the school as far as you know has its, uh, uh, lies, uh, such as china in south africa who of now, um, showing that the important allies to my school, and now they have decided not to also attend, which again shows you that and disability to the situation. and my date is that the most cool um i, she, uh, wanting us to have this despite everything that is up need. and it is also a high time the, the west and the international community do us, understands the role play by russia and be invited in such summits so that you can be able to come up with a peaceful resolution to the, to the green conflict. and data i gather that they the intention of new crane and holding the so called piece um is, is to gather together as many times as possible who are going to put more pressure . and we're going to i

i left the international court of justice after that hearing how it's pretoria responded to the is rarely statements oft uh, the attorney said that the country is repeated request for the court order as well to stop its military operations against guys that demonstrates it so that because desire to, to preserve, come us ruling does that. and that it is shocking that south africa, alienvault nation. the full to against racism now aligns itself will come up, which they refer to as a racist organization so that they could respond to it and say that this is not true. in fact, to this is a schuman drive issue. it also says that it is acting in the name of palestinians who have no independent representation at the you in full, for instance. we do believe that our own intention. yeah, has literally been to bring to the full consent that i need to national crimes and particularly the crimes of crimes which is genocide in this case. and we are very serious about that from a human rights perspective. and not the centrally here as a list by his though that way you to defend, to protect from us from