with an important prevision, the ordinance is unenforcible. that further eroded open government and the commissions -- i believe the commission has to ask itself if this new reality is what it wants as a sole policy power. i'll go over the five minutes, about 20 seconds. in any event, the commission must decide to either refute the directors action and takes steps through the effected revision or amend its two bylaws to reflect the fact that it will no longer enforce the ordinance or actively enforce all ethics laws and rules including open government laws. in some, at a cost of $150,000 to the tax payers, mr. sancrow with deny znswer of the city attorney went off on his own and left the mess that you now need to fix. thank you. speaker: any questions for mr. grossman. speaker: i have a question. mr. grossman, can you argue somehow or another that mr. sancrow violated the open government ordinances when the courts specifically ruled against you on that question. speaker: i'm conceding that the privileges no longer -- the aggregation of the pri

macy's e-mail where he identifies the previsions. this was not a pre-litigation matter and the document that's were withheld were adjudicated by the court of appeal, and it was not found in mr. grossman's favor. in particular, the court of appeal did deal with this issue of the commission not authorizing the lawsuit and while i concur some extent with their king, that perhaps it's a policy matter that may be a different story. as a legal matter, i think it was allowable. those are my views. i'm happy to have further discussion from commissioner on the issue, on any of the issues. is there a motion on this matter? speaker: i make a motion that we find that there is not a basis for finding that the executive director, uh, violated his obligation under -- on an appeal from the sunshine task force and bound by the findings of the court of appeals that his actions were consistent with san francisco open government ordinances. speaker: is there a second? speaker: second. speaker: all in favor. speaker: aye. speaker: opposed. hearing none.

that has not been incorporated in this prevision. also, the commission passed a request for an amendment to be drafted by the staff for reporting and disclosures by draft committees. those are committees designed to draft someone who is not a candidate which arose out of the run ed run campaign. when the commission determined that it did not have jurisdiction, the required disclosures at that time. they passed in november. there was a request from staff to draft an amendment to c fro to cover draft committee. that's now, three years and counting or two years and counting. i'm not good at math. i'm good at language, but not math. so that's a second one. there is also a decision, this past august, for the commission to take up consideration of banning lobbyist from making contributions. there's nothing --

it will be easy to have a prevision that says that the same restrictions that apply to candidate committees would apply to committees that's controlled by a candidate or office holder because you have to deal with public perception of honesty. thank you. speaker: thank you. speaker: good evening, commissioners. just very briefly, i would like to applaud staff's effort to clean up the contribution limits that mr. manarti just reviewed with you. it's respects to limits and it performs with a case law imposed by the u.s. supreme court and the district court here in the 9th circuit. thank you. speaker: so i'm happy to hear from other commissioners on this particular one. i mean, to me this one seems pretty clear. if we think we need to defer it to another meeting, i'm happy to consider this with other issues, but i also don't want to have to revisit things that we've already addressed. you know, to mr. bush's point, i also don't think that we have to deal with all c fro changes in one meeting. there's other c fro changes we can address. i do think mr. bush raises a good point if there are thing

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this a much more practical challenge to the core prevision that says that there will be federal tax credits to people who buy health insurance and exchanges. the law itself refers to state exchanges. so the question se can people who buy insurance through federally facilitated exchanges which is the majority, can they also get these tax credits. the obama administration argues they argue should should be able to get this. the law is written to get the exchangeses. the chearlings say we're looking at -- challengers say we're looking at the clear language of it and it does not allow these tax credits for exchanges setup by the federal government which is a core part of the whole thing. in fact, if you all remember from 2012 when we had the constitutional challenge, it was a broad based challenge. it went to the heart of the individual mandate but this goes the practicalities and as one dissending judge said it could gut everything if the supreme court end up ruling that it would only allow tax credits for tate exchange, individual -- >> the at ministration has been really touting a high perce

realize we play our role in some person might be the visionary and some might be good execution prevision without execution is just hallucinations they need to put these people together. you need to put steve jobs and steve wozniak but also a lot of engineers who built a or create apple. the second lesson i learned from steve jobs was one i had my first long walk with him. he talks about the fact that he was a humanities kid as he put it growing up. he loved the arts and the love letter chill -- literature buddies that i was also an electronics geek and i thought that was strange. i kind of related to that. he knew how to make a soldering iron but i was basically a humanities kid. he said i learned from reading something that edward lamps said that the people who stand at the intersection of the arts and sciences are going to be the place where creativity is. it's not just about stem but humanities and the arts but also those of us in the humanities and arts want to make sure we understand the technology that we don't say that grabs the engineers. i have a framework for the book in my dau