. >> host: he is president of princeton. >> guest: people at princeton found this not to be a very happy experience. many of his reforms were very viable but wilson for example created the federal reserve system. but, over time at princeton his presidency essentially collapsed because of his constant rigidity and refusal to negotiate with anyone who disagreed with him even over small things. the problem is that the information you need when you are judging if someone will be a good leader, it worked quite the opposite. what are they like in the backroom and what are they like under pressure? that kind of information does not flow well across organizational boundaries. you gossip within politics, but how many politicians know very much about what -- what is she really like? i am an academic. i have never met her. i know about the president of harvard but i don't know anything about the present of -- the wilson princeton experience and evaluation at princeton now is the historians looking back we can say that tells us a lot about what will happen in his presidency but this time they did ha

he expects he will come back to princeton anytime soon? >> i cannot comment. >> he held this position and arthur burns held this position and alan greenspan held this position. they all went on to be chairman of the federal reserve. do you have any interest in being chairman of the federal reserve? >> my interest is in seeing the economy repaired. he has been great for me to serve the president in this capacity. it is a tremendous opportunity to use our training, to be in a position to provide objective device to the president, which is what he asked for. he told me to stay out of the politics and give him objective advice. >> the president has said he would like to protect the middle class. the middle class would be much lower than the 250,000 dollar number. -- 250,000 dollars number. why not get rid of the tax cuts for people with incomes of 100,000 because they are presumably middle-class. >> there are a lot of definitions of the middle class. one way of thinking about this issue is, we have had an opportunity gap in this country. that

so, the princeton experience and the evaluation at princeton now as historians looking back we can saythat tells a lot about what is and to happen in the presidency but at that time they didn't have access to that information. it didn't get killed and you wouldn't expect it to get out. >> host: you have a great quote from one of the princeton pierce. he grew arrogant and sarcastic and he spoke to me in a way that i wouldn't have tolerated from anyone else >> guest: he manages to be elected president in 1912 and a famously complex election because this time the republican party split it's almost a mirror image of lincoln split in 1960 wilson wins in 1912 because the republicans have split into. so, tell us about the episode in his administration that you want to focus on. >> guest: and focus on the treaty of versailles and the senate struggled over whether or not the united states should ratify the treaty of riverside. this is in the second term it ends the first cold war and the treaty does more than and the war is designed to create a postwar settlement, some sort of a world that will

. >> look it was floated several weeks ago he was going to go to princeton. i was told by close people that petraeus wasn't going to last there long. ers going to move on, there were discussions of people in that agency. that was a conversation i have and also it was floated he wanted the princeton job. >> i'll defer to david ignatius on this but look at the way he got the job which is they called him in to say look you're not getting the joint chief's job. >> rose: it wasn't they, it was bob gates secretary of defense. >> i think he talks to the president and says if there's something else you want, let us know and he says i'd like to be director of the cia, which i think took people aback. but i think what you see here is a great blurring between the department of defense and the intelligence community. the more they use intelligence and drones and special forces the more their mission -- >> rose: military aspect of the cia. >> david petraeus looked at the cia as an extension of his ml tree career. this is more about how the future is going to be fought. >>

the word is that he was on a short list at the top of the list to be the next president of princeton. obviously, a number of opportunities in front of him. what is your sense of how he might navigate beyond this moment? >> he is a bright and determined and ambitious guy. i think he will bounce back. we have a way of bringing our hands over scandals. -- bringing their hands over scandals. petraeus will move on and do something else. i do think this would disqualify him, though, from becoming chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. i did not think petraeus would want to be president. i think he wanted to be chairman of the joint chiefs to reshape the military and spend his last 20 years been the president of princeton. tavis: given how well you know , what is your sense of how a story like this place with the soldiers? especially those with a bruise on the ground. we're talking about hot -- with boots on the ground. how do you think this place with this kind of -- with the soldiers? >> it worries me a little bit. petraeus talked to a lot of reporters. he was an allied air in the military

married holly, the daughter of the military academy superintendent, father of two a doctor from princeton superintendent, father of two including a son who recently returned from active duty. >> as you notice, my wife, holly, is with me here today, she has hung tough. while i have been deployed since 9/11. >> reporter: holly is a part of the finance bureau, working there with elizabeth warren. >> financial readiness is essential to mission readiness. >> earlier this year, david petraeus was the subject of another biography by paula broadwell. another west point graduate, a doctor he met at harvard >> when i was in kabul, i would do a lot of interviews on runs. >> reporter: nbc news confirmed that the fbi opened investigations into whether or not broadwell had access to e-mails or other computer information. the white house learned of the situation wednesday, say sources. officials say petraeus called and asked to see the president thursday, acknowledged the situation and offered to resign. the president asked him for 24 hours to consider the situation. today, while juggling the economic s

he apparently wants to be president of princeton. he will have a year of probably giving speeches, making a lot of money. i don't feel sorry for him. >> if he wrote a book with the lady who wrote about him, paula broadwell, all in the education of david petraeus. he cooperated practically on the entire book. now he's going to write another book? >> he can write one about himself. he's not the author of this. this is somebody writing about him. >> this is his -- >> that's what happens when you screw up. you get all these offers. that's the way america works, apparently. >> the book is very favorable to -- >> one of the reviews said, it's not written by a reporter, it's written by an accolite. obviously she thinks very highly of him. >> is there a dark side to petraeus? i don't see it. >> but he can't -- yeah, but he can't continue -- anyway was in charge of afghanistan command, baghdad operations, leader of central command, cia director, leader of the insurgency doctrine, one of the most 100 -- >> he can't continue tin job that he has

. >> host: they did at princeton >> guest: he had been president at princeton and people in princeton does not to be happy experience. many reforms were valuable in the presidency were valuable, wilson created the federal reserve system. but, over time at princeton his presidency essentially collapsed because of the consistent alleged the and absolute refusal to negotiate with anyone who disagrees with him over even small things. the problem is the sort of information you need to be a good leader. what do they like in the back room when the lights are off under pressure and that kind of information doesn't flow well. you don't gossip across the company's common you gossip within politics. but how many politicians know very much about what shirley told them? what do they know about what she's really like? on an academic. i know a little bit about the president of harvard but i don't know anything about the president of princeton to read so the present experience and evaluation melhem of historians looking back we can see that tells us a lot about what's going to happen in the presidenc

also joining me is princeton university's anne-marie slaughter. let's talk about hamas.in the last segment was saying he thinks the gaza population is a captive population to hamas. how popular are they here? they clearly have support. they won an election here. these days, how popular are they when you talk to people? >> not very. they do have a system, they're the biggest employer in gaza so if you want a job and you can't find anything, you will find something with hamas. they provide food, they provide education to a certain extent, also medical care. so people do appreciate that because here, gaza as you've seen is a very poor place. >> they provide a safety net for the poorest. >> social safety net. on the other hand, many people resent them because they feel that they're power-hungry. they're dishonest, they're greedy. they for instance monopolize the tunnel trade to egypt. they tax everything that goes through, nobody can dig a tunnel, operate a tunnel, without paying taxes officially or unofficially so there's a feeling that hamas is in a sense turned gaza into

. >> look it was floated several weeks ago he was going to go to princeton. i was told by close people that petraeus wasn't going to last there long. ers going to move on, there were discussions of people in that agency. that was a conversation i have and also it was floated he wanted the princeton job. >> i'll defer to david ignatius on this but look at the way he got the job which is they called him in to say look you're not getting the joint chief's job. >> rose: it wasn't they, it was bob gates secretary of defense. >> i think he talks to the president and says if there's something else you want, let us know and he says i'd like to be director of the cia, which i think took people aback. but i think what you see here is a great blurring between the department of defense and the intelligence community. the more they use intelligence and drones and special forces the more their mission -- >> rose: military aspect of the cia. >> david petraeus looked at the cia as an extension of his ml tree career. this is more about how the future is going to be fought. >>

harvard, penn, brown, and princeton are women. that is not an accident. that is because we have a flexible schedule. we can do it. i do think there is bias, but i also want to say, given to -- give people the ability to manage their own time, these are talented women and they have all done stuff. they all have kids. the president of brown has a 14-year-old. with that said, i absolutely agree with you there is still bias. in this town the number of times i have heard, she is really good, but, well, she has sharp elbows. that means she had a different opinion and had to do it forcefully because nobody paid attention the first 10 times she said it. there is just always something. there are networks and they are more comfortable. i am not sure if the world was run by women if we were not doing the same thing. we are more comfortable with a certain type of person or a style. there are all places where a person is not considered because they did not visualize it. it is equally true for african- americans, hispanics, gays, we still have a vision. some careers ar

damon, and ben wedeman, and we have someone from sanford university, joining us from new york and princeton university's anne marie slaughter and we'll talk to the israeli ambassador of the united states. wolf, what are you hearing about hillary clinton's activity. she landed in tel aviv and met with benjamin netanyahu, and later she will meet with mahmoud abbas and president morsi in israel. what are you hearing about the talks with netanyahu? >> they met about two hours with netanyahu, the defense minister, foreign minister, national security team. they spent two hours going over what's being released. the state department says she was briefed on the israeli position on all these issues. she wants to see a deescalation of what's going on, she uses the word a calm. they are avoiding the word cease-fire for right now but throughout the day, there is speculation coming from hamas and egyptian officials that they were close to a cease-fire. israelis downplaying the possibility. saying they weren't there until they actually had an agreement. there's no agreement, and if anything, there's an in

from princeton and father of two. >> as you noted, mr. chairman, my wife, holly, is here with me today. she has hung tough while i've been deployed for over 5 1/2 years since 9/11. >> earlier this year, david petraus was the subject of. >> we would do a lot of interviews on runs. for him, i think it was a good distraction from the war. >> the f.b.i. opened an investigation into whether broadwell had improper action. the president asked him for 24 hours to consider the situation. today, while juggling his economics speech, the president called patreus and accepted the resignation thanking for him extraordinary service through the decades. senate intelligence chair diane feinstein called it an enormous loss and said i wish president obama had not accepted his rez ig nagsz. taking over the c.i.a., michael morrel. >> now, patreus will not have to testify. law enforcement sources tell nbc news that general patreus is not under investigation. we tried to reach paula bodwell unsuccessfully. >> an inappropriate relationship also cost the c.e.o. o

we'll hear from a princeton grad. what do you think, steve? >> you have to pay for talent in sports and in business the real reason college costs are going up is the bloat of the administrative costs and scott brown in massachusetts was right when he reported that senator warren was making 4--ing you to -- $300 to teach one course. >> with certain viewers, i will cut them all the way to zero. d i think that the football program should be moved into a for profit subsidary. the university is for learning and football you do on your own time like going to the pool hall. >> john, what do you think of that solution? >> it is ridiculous. look at what happened to usc. university of the spoil would children and now it is impossible to get into. why pete carol arrived and donations to the school soaredlet >> but they are soaring because they are tax exempt. to bill's point. the colleges and universities are out of control because they are nonprofit. they have 40 administrators for every one student. and i don't know why stunes are giting squeezed when

many of you know tranter was valedictorian of her class at princeton.quico's grandparents fled mexico during a revolution, came to america for freedom. he is the american dream. he operated a bank in texas. he has a banking background. they were really loved by republicans and democrats together. nan was actually criticized for being a member of the tea party. believe you me, she may be many things, to leave you me in the campaign she was used as a tea party person. nan is no tea party candidate. she was a person that work together across the aisle and i told both of them, you know, their loss is america's loss. and that so often happens. i know you who cover the sometimes than the people that lose are the people that would pull the country together and i think that's happened. bob dole, judy beckert, two of our hardest working members. sit this election is also not about numbers. it's about real people. and let me tell you, this committee, they lost relief for of our most bipartisan across the i/o members. i can tell you that it was a blow. shortly aft

from princeton university. been around for awhile. a smart guy like that get into a mess like this? i think you said it, let's sex.o the he is america's spymaster, a ther degreesll the that.l running the cia. to conduct an through a gmail acunt, nobody can get access to maybe every 12-year- in america. his paramour has a master's also atm harvard, grad, and she decides allegedly to send a threatening s to a woman in flflorida,a, also going after general petraeus, and she sends these gmail account. shocked, shocked that they got caught. d dumb and dumber. >> colby, you have military and security experice. .our thoughts on this >> war is hell and it has obviously taken a toll on top generals.. look, nothing general petraeus has done will detract from his .ecord happened is confusing. the investigatation that was doe -- they determined was no questionf or national security compromise. there is another aspect to this thing, suitability for conduct. you can be a patriot, but if are habitually to excess, problem.be a amebody has got to make decision with conduct, and that did not happen.

princeton university of looking at him. what is s your take from whahat y're hearingn washgt?k hee hasas a brit future beyond governmnment service? >> i think so. it is not necessarily true that an extramarital a affair damages your ability. look at bi clint. it is unlikely he will return t to the milita spending. he is still very well rescted for sttegic intelligenence and academic intellince a ph.d. in intnational relations. he can basical do -- he could go back to academia, l look at a think tank or the and consultant in the defense inst. >> your repters i interviewed experts who looooked at this. three of them said he could still go out there and get a jojob. one. said no. the one that struck me w a recruiter whoo said he will be offered a job b iwill notot lockerbie an 'a' or 'b' level company. to you agree with ththat? >> i think he wi slowly redeem himself in couple of years. >> that is it for a roundtable. we w >> thanks for joining us. we would le to remind you that yoyou he options of how to connect with us at "washington business report." you can search for us on fa

you can tell it was a champion debater at princeton. he's very conservative. he is parts irish, italian, and cuban. he is the first hispanic senator exas.taxes -- from taxe he can speak to hispanics in every conservative way, but he can also reach out to conservative republicans and anglo republicans are very comfortable with him. who is your biggest turkey coming or be a loser? but the castro brothers also from texas are stars. one is in congress and one is a mayor. >> joaquin castro, i loved your speech. [laughter] >> they are identical. >> i hope he reaches out to senator kreuz very quickly. simon rosenberg at the new democrat the network has been researching, studying coming and telling us about the growing hispanic vote for a long time and he predicted 335 electoral votes in florida comes in for president obama, i think simon is just about right. it sounded a little outlandish a few days ago. >> ann? appreciationlaise's for the book, "the victory laps ." when i was canvassing in virginia and i was maybe the fourth person going columbus list and i was aski

from princeton.ment for so many in the national security community. >> and that is the reaction, wolf, that you're getting here in the pentagon today. people just surprised, shocked by what they've heard. just did not see this coming. you know, of course david petraeus you know for all of his accolades in the last ten years or so in these theaters in iraq and afghanistan, he was a 50-year-old general by the time he first set foot in combat. by the time david petraeus got his first taste of real combat, he was a 50-year-old major general. in 2003 he commanded the 101st airborne during its march on baghdad. it was in iraq that he rhetorically asked a reporter, tell me how this ends. suggesting trouble the u.s. would have there in later years. there he gained the nickname king david, used affectionately by his supporters and derisively by those who labeled him a celebrity general. in 2007, president bush appointed petraeus to lead all troops in iraq. petraeus essentially rewrote the army field manual. a

from princeton university. roger, you have been around for awhile. how does a smart man like that get into a mess like this? >> like he said, let's get to the sex. he is america's spymaster, aside from the degrees and all that. but he decides to conduct an affair through a gmail account, because gosh, nobody can get access to that except maybe any 12-year-old in america but his power more -- his paramour, a master's degree from harvard, also of west point grad -- decides allegedly to send a threatening e-mails to a woman in florida coup may also be going after general petraeus. she sends these also through a gmail account. shocked to think they got caught. this is doumb and dumber. >> colby, you have military and national security experience. your thoughts on this? >> war is hell and it has taken its toll on our top generals. nothing general petraeus has done detracts from his record. what happened is extremely confusing. the investigation done by the fbi, but they determined there was no question of loyalty, no national security compromise. they sto

harvard, penn, brown, and princeton are women. that is not an accident. we have a flexible schedule. we can do it. i do think there is bias, but i also want to say, given to -- give people the ability to manage their own time, these are talented women and they have all done stuff. they all have kids. the president of brown has a 14- year-old. with that said, i absolutely agree with you there is still bias. in this town the number of times i have heard, she is really good, but, well, she has sharp elbows. that means she had a different opinion and had to do it forcefully because nobody paid attention the first 10 times she said it. there is just always something. there are networks and they are more comfortable. i am not sure if the world was run by women if we were not doing the same thing. we are more comfortable with a certain type of person or a style. there are all places where a person is not considered because they did not visualize it. it is equally true for african- americans, hispanics, gays, we still have a vision. some careers are worse than ot

while still a student at princeton, nash realized that in any finite game, and not just a zero-sum game, there is always a way for players to choose their strategies so that none will wish they had done something else. for the prisoner's dilemma, the best strategy is always to defect. that is, a pure d strategy. the minimax theorem had already showed why in terms of costs and benefits, but nash's insight was about behavior: if i play my strategy against your strategy, is there a point where changing my strategy won't help me? the answer is yes. knowing that and searching for that point creates what nash called a strategic equilibrium in the system. and the strategy that creates that equilibrium is now, quite naturally, called the nash equilibrium. however, this didn't necessarily mean that the payoffs to each individual are desirable, so it still looked like selfish interest was the rule in game theory. but as we said, people aren't numbers, and they do seem to cooperate, to trust each other, at least sometimes. >> you ratted me out. >> you ratted me out. >> so, what you reading? >> boo

i also traced his military education and his experience at princeton. which was one of his most formative experiences. one reason he really tries to influence individuals. so that their family looked at was his experiences. not only the typical military experiences, but his experience in haiti, which was a nationbuilding exercise, which is where he had his first rule of law development. we look at his experience in bosnia where he was greatly exposed to the intelligence community and special operations command after the mission switched from hunting were chairs to hunting terrorists. he helped to spearhead this. he was with the green berets and the special ops community. the rangers and delta force, the first time those two communities have the same mission. this is important as his future commander in iraq. but he was out there in a baseball cap and after the guys who go in and knock on the doors, he went and delivered letters and in his oral history interview, which i conducted with michael hammond from the brookings institute, this is a transformatio

one school in america by a "time" and " princeton review" back in 1987. it is unfortunate we had this institute, but the florida a&m band has been employing many years. we are not throwing away that institution because of this tragic incident. penn state did not stop playing football, you follow me? we are back. we just received a big grant from the government on some research. we graduate more ph.d.'s in physics and math and science than any other institution. why? because we don't go after just the talented 10%, we are educating all of these black folks. tavis: shirley, grenard mentioned that you have been married 45, 46 years now. no marriage is perfect, obviously, but i think it means something in the contest of black history to have not just an african-american president, but when it was a black wife, beautiful children. that family mean something. >> it certainly does mean something. not that i put this in the same category, but i like the idea of us being where we are and having young people understand that we are not -- we were not always where we

that's the experience i've had. >> when you're a princeton, was ben bernanke barisal?and then i like to point out before he was chairman of the fed, even before he was chairman of the princeton economics department come he was chairman of my tenure review committee. last night the >> so you have a very high regard. >> man has wonderful judgment. >> to expect to come back to prince to an intensive? >> i can't comment on his plans. >> he held his position and arthur burns held his position and alan greenspan help this position you now hold and they'll were not to be chairman of the federal reserve. do you have any interest in being chairman of the federal reserve? >> my interest to see the economy recover the best it can. it's been a wonderful opportunity for me to say the president comes to the country in this capacity. there really is some ensure all chairman of the count up to the site a tremendous opportunity to use streaming to be in a position to provide object of advice to the president, which is what he asked for. somatostatin to politics and give them the unvarn

these wars going back ten years and not know dave petraeus, as you and i both do, soldier scholar, princeton, his wife is as much a member of the military families as much as david. and yet, this staggerering incident. >> yes, this is something held both in a high regard, making a tremendous contribution to the defense of the public. i have known general petraeus since he was a cadet at west point when i was teaching in the department of social sciences. and his wife, holly, was the daughter of the superintendent, exceptional people, making great contributions, making it all the more painful. >> when you're a cia director and something like this happens in your personal life i guess it makes you vulnerable and perhaps even blackmailable. >> yes, there is another lesson here, too, when there is bad news, the best time to get it out is at the very beginning. bad news doesn't get better with age. i am surprised the president took 24 hours to accept the resignation, dragged out, it would have been much, much worse. >>> thank you, the news about general petraeus, overshadowed what about the presi

professor of geosciences at princeton university. he has been studying climate science for three decades now. good morning. thank you for being here. you live in lower manhattan. you saw the storm's devastation first hand. were you surprised by sandy's magnitude? >> well orve, of course, i was surprised. even though i do this kind of work professionally. sandy was not caused by global warming, but it was made worse. believe me, it's no laughing matter. this situation is going to get worse as long as the world continues to warm and the world is going to continue to warm as long as we keep burning primarily coal oil and natural gas for energy. that's putting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. that's pumping up the temperature of the earth and causing the seas to rise. >> let's talk specifically about manmade climate change. how much do you blame that? >> climate change, as i said, didn't cause sandy, but it made it worse. climate changed caused, for instance, the sea level at new york's battery to be a foot higher than it was a centur