but they say they aren't going anywhere (sara sidner/princeton, oregon) an you give us some sense of exactly how long you will be here? lavoy finicum/protester & rancher: "this is a lot of work. it's definitely going to take some months. months that some local residents in burns, oregon think could turn into much longer. ( shelly daughtery, print shop owner) "i feel like they've lied to us. i feel like whole protest march was a ruse so that they could do what they're doing right now." ( sara sidner/princeton, oregon)there are some people that are ranch why are they coming from outside into our community? (lavoy finicum/protester & rancher) "i understand that concern. " (sara sidner/princeton, oregon) "day four and the group is still here. there are no federal local or here, and we are in the middle of nowhere, more than 35 miles from the nearest town." the lack of police presence is a stark contrast to the deadly siege and confrontation at ruby ridge in idaho that left three dead including a us marshal in 1992. less than a year later, there was the deadly raid in waco, texas that lef

what are they doing in princeton, oregon right now? >> well, they say they want to restore and defend the constitution. and the thing about this is, that's mysterious is we don't know how many people are inside that refuge. it's about 30 miles away. i'm in front of the sheriff's office right now because law enforcement is getting ready to have a press conference any minute. thissing location is a bird sanctuary 30 miles down the road. they did this because they say they want to support this father and son who burned their property, having to report to prison today, the sheriff in burns oregon, 30 miles from where that person was, that they wanted to take down the city and state government, they have more of an agenda. >> the hammonds, just to repeat this, are the hammonds affiliated with this group at all? you mentioned they are going to turn themselves in. do they have any affiliation to the citizens for constitutional freedom militia? >> no, in fact, the citizens for constitutional freedom as they now call themselves, came here on th

live in princeton oregon, and carrol, are we getting any indication as too when this might end?> we are not. we are into our fourth day, and i tell you what, if push comes to shove, something will happen here, but right now, law enforcement is playing a waiting game. we are into our fourth day here, we have had some movement, ammond bundy came out here, were surrounded by media, but he just went inside, we were trying to get him to talk to us. here is what is happening. soon there will be a press conference by the citizens for constitutional movement, and right now, i am looking at a road which goes down to the compound, where at least two dozen people are inside. men, women, and children, and you can see that black truck, the black truck is actually guarding that entrance road. i talked to the two men in there, they told me they are still standing for constitutional rights, they are doing this because they want for this land to be handed over to the people, it now belongs to the b.l.m. we also talked to a man named pete san till low. he is a talk show host and a marine, who tol

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the armed group is holed up in the mall here at national wildlife refuge in princeton, oregon. the group's leader ammon bundy says they won't leave until the government meets their demands and that means freeing a father and son in federal prison for lighting fires on federal land. they want the government to give up control of the national wildlife refuge. local sheriff told the group to leave. the fbi says it wants a peaceful end to the standoff. >>> now to decision 2016. four weeks until the opening of the 2016 primary season. today people in iowa and new hampshire will start to see some new political ads. >> donald trump calls it radical islamic terrorism. that's why he's calling for a temporary shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> republican candidate donald trump's ad that was released yesterday will begin airing in key states today. trump plans to ramp up spending to about $2 million per week ahead of the iowa caucuses. coming up, tracie potts will have more on the foreign border that appears in the commercial. >>> today, virginia governor terry mcauliffe i

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. >> for the latest we are joined now by msnbc national reporter n princeton, oregon. >> seth: okay, now let's stop there for a second. as you see, okay, in the background, there is a blue tarp.nking. what is under that tarp? supplies, some firewood? no, the answer is so much better than that. is a man under a blue tarp sitting in a rocking chair with a rifle over his lap.r that tarp there. >> there's a 55-year-old rancher from arizona named lavoy finicum.s right. there is a dude under a tarp holding a rifle.ke a guest in a game of militia clue. [ laughter ] this keeps getting better, because lavoy finicum, the man very good reason for sitting there. >> he says there is a warrant out for his arrest. we can't confirm that but that's not plan to accept that warrant. he does not plan to come -- to go peacefully if the police come. >> seth: that's right, law man.er the tarp, and i ain't ever coming out. [ laughter ] >> we were here all day long and we didn't see any -- any ment come in. >> seth: oh cleetus. you got to cut me some air holes. i just hot boxed myself. [ laughter ]learly the

a group of armed protesters have control of the national wildlife refuge in princeton, oregon. they say they're not leaving until the government gives up control of the refuge. >> our purpose as we have shown is to restore and defend the constitution. >> the group also wants a father and son freed from federal prison for lighting fires on federal land. the local sheriff told the group to leave. the fbi says it wants a peaceful end to the standoff. >>> maryland representative donna edwards says the media treatment of the oregon protesters is a racial double standard. in a statement edwards says the activists should be called, quote, law breaking militants. she said the white protesters are being judged differently than the black lives matter activists. >>> a man who barricaded himself inside an office building in georgetown will now undergo a mental evaluation. k street near the water front is open this morning after that barricade situation that lasted more than seven hours. d.c. police say the man was going through a crisis. eventually he surrendered. >>> now to another barric

and then we will go home. >> msnbc's tony dokoupil has the latest from princeton, oregon.id they're there to help the people of harney county and not to intimidate them. but what are local residents saying? >> reporter: well, hi, kate. the occupation continues here, but as day four comes to a close, lothere's a creeping sen that the movement may have missed their moment. the popular support they were hoping for has not materialized. members of our team went out to the streets, we talked to a mother whose child is not in school because of this movement. she's upset. we talked to an nra member as well. and there's a creeping sense that if something doesn't happen soon to reignite interest, these guys are going to have to move, and notably, there have been repeated calls for reinforcements for a patriotic cavalry to come in and help them hold this place. nobody's shown up. we've been here all day. >> you've done some reporting in the stand-off involving the bundys a couple years ago, 2014, wasn't it? it has a different feel this time around, but this is a political question f

. >> for the latest, we're joined now by msnbc national reporter tony dekoepel live in princeton, oregonas you see in the background, there's a blue tarp. you might be thinking what's under that tarp? supplies? firewood? no, the answer is so much better than that. >> over my shoulder is a man under a blue tarp sitting in a rocking chair with a rifle over his lap. >> so there's a guy under that tarp there? >> a 55-year-old rancher from arizona named lavoy. >> that's right. there's a dude under the tarp sitting in a rocking chair holding a rifle. that sounds like a guess in a game of militia clue. but this keeps getting better. the man under the tarp has a very good reason for sitting there. >> he says there's a warrant out for his arrest, that that's what he says. he does not plan to accept that warrant. he doesn't plan to go peaceably if the police come. >> that's right, lawman. i ain't ever coming out. >> we were here all day long and we didn't' any provision shipments coming in. >> oh, cletus, you have to cut me some air holes. i just hot boxed myself. >> we'll be right back. about a b

the group is holed up in the national wildlife refuge in princeton, oregon. the refuge is under the control of armed protesters. they say they're not leaving until demands are met, including freeing a father and son in federal prison for leicighting fires on federal land. >> our purpose as we have shown is to restore and defend the constitution. >> the local sheriff told the group to leave. the fbi says it wants a peaceful end to the standoff. >>> new details this morning about a barricade situation in chevy chase on sunday. alan johnson is in custody facing assault charges. d.c. police say he threatened his wife and brother-in-law with two guns at a home on 32nd street. he was apparently upset about the care of his mother. johnson will appear in court on thursday. >>> second barricade situation, this time in georgetown, a man who barricaded himself inside an office building will now undergo a mental evaluation. k street near the water front there was shut down for several hours. police say the man was going through a crisis. he surrendered peacefully after s