if you go through the middle of the country and travel through the towns like when i was in princeton princeton studying a college and i was travelling by train to new york i would see trying to do prawns wakin of the towns of america fall apart exactly they'd fall in the rust belt as a cold and so that's that a case not about the fact of yeah we have all street stocks and facebook stocks and google stocks are wonderful and you can make money but how about the the underbelly which is most people who are living in third world status within the greatest nation in the world and you seem to suggest that the. government itself is being privatized away in the united states we followed thatcher's lead all right that was the whole point was from the seventy's late seventy's carter actually start of the lot of that privatization process of the banking sector and you know obviously through the eighty's but that she was doing in london was very much mirrored by reagan throughout the eighty's and. that privatization that ultimately you know kind of. you could say that moment really was the renunciation of

princeton princeton studying a college and i was travelling by train to new york i would see trying to do prawns wakin of the towns of america fall apart exactly they'd fall in the rust belt the cold and so that's that a case not about the fact of yeah we have all street stocks and facebook stocks and google stocks are wonderful and you can make money but how about the the underbelly which is most people who are living in third world status within the greatest nation in the world and you seem to suggest that the. government itself is being privatized away in the united states we followed the factors lead right that was the whole point was from the seventy's late seventy's carter actually start of the lot of that privatization process of the banking sector. and you know obviously through the eighty's but that she was doing in london was very much mirrored by reagan throughout the eighty's and. that privatization that ultimately you know kind of that you could say that moment really was the renunciation of glass steagall when we took that down by clinton actually did it right in about two thousand the separation of banks investment bank exactly last eagle have protected since the no one's talking about trump isn't even talking about separate going back on the clinton precisely no one's talking about putting the facts because many sons as well it would make sense i mean look to me it makes sense to go back to classical exactly i think brought it up during the election with war in some points i think was an advocate for it it makes sense to protect your basically not to not to play with your deposit money which is what creates the scam speculation but the problems are so much money at stake when you have this massive amounts of collusion that goes on at the very top right with the with the various private banks in bed with the insurance companies and all of these you know this conglomerate of financial power it's just there's too much money in a sense to say no to that if you mention collusion if you turn on television stations in the united states today the talking about this very definitely the threat to the united states posed by most if not all of the threats and that's the whole point of what empires do they always it direct the enemy the enemy abroad the enemy is out there that's the whole point you basically consolidate through endless war and i think j.f.k. the film there was a great line where it's war is the sort of misquoting a bit like war is the operating principle of any state if you really want to effect change if you really want to have control of your society you have to be in a war. mentality economy because it goes top down executive orders and so really since the second world war we've been a petrol war first with really since the first world war but there was a ten year break right the second world war starts. we go into the cold war after that the cold war goes until the ninety's with reprieve although we have bosnia or kosovo. iraq won and then what happens nine eleven ever since then perpetual terror terror starts to wane oh now we have russia again so it's just it's a constant war economy but some would say that everything he could have been tweeted by donald trump before he became president and he said he was against the war as it was some flip flopping your film and one that centers on detroit the car industry the two million workers he's always dogging about the death of manufacturing industry and he won michigan yeah so. trump isn't the answer to a lot of people's prayers although i have necessarily been able to effectuate everything i think it's unrealistic to expect the president to come into a we're talking about again oligarchies here the princeton university i think it was a put out a study of couple years ago about how america is not a public or democracy it's an oligarchy so you're talking about major financial vested interests and some are more internationalist in their in their agenda and others are more nationalist i think represents the oligarchies the ruling money wealth that's more nationalistic that's why he you know basically jettison the t p p right away he's not a proponent of nafta he does want to i think improve the american core industries you know i think his corporate tax cuts are problematic as they may be do make it more of an incident they do incentivize corporations to repatriate and come back and employ merican workers so look he's not a perfect figure by any means i'd rather see someone between trump and bernie sanders but there is there is thing there are things that he's doing and standing for that is symbolically what the american people want and that's why he was had the you know basically he was vote

princeton to preserve and definitely keep those, but it's a lot of information. host: where are the bulk of his papers now? massee: they are at princeton. host: and what is their connection to princetonmassee: princeton is the place the grover and frances retired to buried it's a crazy story, but i've been told this many time. grover did not like woodrow wilson, and at the time woodrow wilson was the presidet and hes children are woodrow wilson's children to play together, because there was a little bit of a rift. so they did not play together. but that's the connection, he retired to princeton. talking aboutre the cleveland children, he had a daughter that became famous and who eventually passed away, baby ruth. we have a candy bar named after baby ruth. tell us the family stories about baby ruth. massee: so the actual candy company contacted the cleveland family to put the images of the baby and also frances on that. and we have tons of political memorabilia, tons of souvenirs that have been given away, and they actually contacted the family to actually allow both images on the candy bar. ruthadly, like you said, passed away and sadly, susan, she was pregnant with a child at and bo

pelley: they wouldn't be able to believe that you were at princeton, their princeton. >> toyin: i hope they wouldn't think it's their princetone our princeton now. like, that's the good thing about it, is like, we're so diverse and, like, that's the best thing about this whole change that's happening. it's our princeton. and like, 20 years from now, it's going to be someone else's princeton, that may look a whole lot different than this. and i think that's the beautiful thing about it. >> more on tonight's stories, including steve scalise on little miracles... >> if one of them doesn't have a problem, he's not here. >> ...at 60minutesovertime.com. ♪ ) mike: i've tried lots of things for my joint pain. now? watch me. ( ♪ ) joni: think i'd give up showing these guys how it's done? please. real people with active psoriatic arthritis are changing the way they fight it. they're moving forward with cosentyx. it's a different kind of targeted biologic. it's proven to help people find less joint pain and clearer skin. don't use if you are allergic to cosentyx. before starting cosentyx you should be checked for tuberculosis. an increa

princeton. >> what is their princeton connection? placenceton is the actual that grover and francis retired two. to.etired i will never forget the story. grover did not like woodrow wilson. woodrow wilson was the president at that time. he did not allow his children and woodrow wilson stood -- wilson's to play together. that's the connection. he retired to princeton. >> the cleveland children also had a daughter that became a very -- became very famous. baby ruth. we have a candy bar named after her. tell us what you know about the family stories about baby ruth? >> the actual candy company contacted the cleveland family to put the images of the baby and francis on that. i have tons of political memorabilia the -- memorabilia that have been given away. they contacted the family to actually allow both images on the candy bar. sadly, like you said, ruth passed away. sadly, susan was pregnant with the child at the time. happened almost at the same time. she did not get a chance to say goodbye before she passed away. >> are very early childhood. >> they were afraid that the disease, diphtheria, would affect the child. she's on the candy bar in the never goes away. >> everybody thinks that candy bar was named after babe ruth. but that was long after that time. you hear it from the candy company. they will actually say it is named for baby ruth. you se

princeton. in 2015, princeton's black students chanted "we're sick and tired of being sick and tired." now, this phrase was first used by fanny lou hammer, civil rights activist who was beaten in the 1950s for trying to vote. fannie lou hammer had grounds aplenty forking into sick and tired of being sick and tired but any princeton student, i don't care if he is green, purple or orange, who think himself as oppressed, is in the grip of a terrible delusion that will encoupleber him for the rest office his life. prangs you're thinking, at least the adults on campus are trying to give students a firmer grip on reality. to the contrary. the adults actively encourage the hysteria. a massive diversity bureaucracy is devoted to cultivating in students evermore arcane spears of self-involvement and ever more preposterous forms of -- of self-pity. want to know the recent for astro naomi cal tuition? look no further than the bureaucratic bloat. students october out psycho dodges of omission before an britishtive audience of diversity dean, vice provosts of -- who use the occasion to expand their dominion. many campuses have created bias response teams. modeled presumably on active shooter response teams on the assumption that discrimination is so rampant and lethal that a rapid defense force is needed. freshman orientatio

princeton and harvard said an astonishing 95% of the jobs that obama added, temporary contractual jobs. an unbelievably high number. >> it's an unbelievably high number. it's interesting because princeton and harvard economists do not tend to be that friendly to mr. trump. there's a great economist at yale or princeton, i might have that wrong, really slammed trump all of the time saying he doesn't deserve credit. maybe that's true. but for whatever reason we're having a miraculous recovery and you don't need to look up statistics. walk down any street anywhere. every window and store says hiring, hiring. never seen anything like it. it's a miracle. elizabeth: and they're hiring for 75,000, 80,000 a year, high-paying jobs. here's plump slamming the tax pg the tax cuts as bad. >> on winding regulations, weakening working restrictions, shrinking the safety net. you have come of age during a time of growing inequality, of fracturing of economic opportunity. and that growing economic divide compounded other divisions in our country. elizabeth: so he is. >> not true. elizabeth: basically, ben, this is still, critics say, remarkably breathe taking tedious and incompetent basically analysis by president obama here. he's flat out wrong. there are are more than. >> he's flat out wrong. elizabeth: -- benefit

princeton. it was interesting, he, he'd never gone to college, and he went to princeton and sort of became the mascot there. and after a football victory all students would march to grover's house and give a cheer, and he really enjoyed his final time in princeton. we have somebody who's going to bring a microphone for you, just a second. >> yeah. the other half of your title is the panic of 1893, and other than the fact you mentioned there was a railroad bubble that burst, you didn't say anything about that. is it covered in the book? no, it is covered inside the book. as i said, there were two major causes of the panic which was the overbuilding of the railroads and the uncertainty in the currency situation. and it would be hard to overstate how contentious and controversial and detrimental this was to the country, the debate over gold versus silver. and i think that was what really, um, precipitated the panic. people didn't know what was going to happen with the currency. would there be inflation, would there be deflation? if they stopped minting silver if they stopped minting silver dollars? it could be that you would have a money famine, and these happened periodically. in fact, that was one of the reasons that the silver rights wanted to

princeton. he went to princeton. >> yeah. good school. >> it's almost like his lawyers are thinking a guy from queens can't keep up with robert mueller who then you said went to uva law school. >> no, they don't think. they know. >> they know. they all think he's dumb, think he's stupid, all say he's an idiot. all think he's -- i'd be really insulted if i was the president and people thought that about me. >> i know you would and god knows no one would ever think you were too dumb to go up with some andover school, because you were educated in some of the best schools. the other thing they could think, that he's a pathological liar and that he will lie, regardless what his mental state is or intellectual capacity is, the president will commit perjury. the facts are bad, truth is bad. he will avoid the truth or doesn't know what the truth is, you suggested a second ago. not that he's dumb. in the minds of the lawyers, but that he's lost track of reality one way or the other. some of those things, some combination of those thin

china, not realizing that my integrity and princeton university press' integrity was worth than any money we could make an -- oran: did they come to you go to princeton? what kind of people came to you from china? dr. engel: nobody came to me. they came to bush's national security adviser and had communication with president bush's office. the information was transmitted to me from president bush's office. to their credit, they wanted me to know what the chinese were asking because ultimately it was my decision as the editor. president bush did not have the authority to change words in my book. we expect you will do what you think is right. brian: did he have clients that were chinese at the time? dr. engel: i would not be able to say. i can presume. brian: there is so much to ask you about and i have so little time. i'm going to go to another event. follow the wall. -- the fall of the wall. how much responsibility to george bush have? dr. engel: zero in the immediate sense. bush had a responsibility for making sure gorbachev's reforms continue to go peacefully. throughout tightrope the entire first years of his administration knowing if he pushed to