and you can think of it like a prison inside a prison.after they shut down the hole, they needed a place to house troublesome inmates. this was one of the areas they could keep everyone away. again, just out of the general population in the prison. come on in. so, cellblock 15 is known as death row. this is where prisoners who are awaiting an execution were usually kept on gthe second floor. the execution did not take place at this prison. in pennsylvania, there is one prison called rockview. any execution in pennsylvania will happen there. used to be the electric chair. today it is lethal injection. although it is right now being debated. just last week, governor wolf signed a moratorium that would hold off on the death penalty. still in active debate. we are curious here to see where it will end. this is the most modern cellblock. so because it is from the 1950's, you can see the sin k-toilet unit. still used in prisons today. the bars have been removed. these used to have a sliding gate over each cell. along the ceiling, there was a se

it's the same in prison. the bottom of that ladder is segregation, the hole, where the inmate will spend most of their time by themselves without any privileges. at the top of that ladder is general population, where an inmate will have about as much freedom as you can in prison. >> serving a 60-year sentence for several crimes including rape and with a long list of violent offenses inside indiana state prison, inmate brian collins was fortunate to have been moved out of the intensive detention unit to the less restrictive chronic care unit. but not long after the move his luck ran out. >> mr. collins has been accused of assaulting another inmate. there was never a verification of that, but the accusation was there. >> brian had a history of aggressive behavior, a history of getting into fights with inmates and staff. he was a convicted sex offender, obviously in jeopardy inside a prison, so i think a lot of his aggressive behavior was a means of protecting himself. >> prison officials allowed us to give coll

it's a prison within a prison. shoe inmates spend about 22 hours of every day in solitary confinement locked up in an 8 x 10 windowless cement cell with little human contact. inside the shoe are about 1,000 level four prisoners. what boil calls the worst of the worst. inmates that other wardens don't want or can't handle. dangerous gangs founded within the penal community. >> because of their gang leadership, they have the authority to authorize other people in the community or the prison to commit these kinds of crimes. >> and on that day two alleged gangs go to war. it's sunday, and it's raining. 200 shoe prisoners are released into b yard for exercise. boyle says that the entire prison is on edge dating back to a smaller racially charged riot six months earlier between two gangs. the southern hispanics and the black gorilla family. >> you could feel the tension. staff were particularly alert. as it went on, the tension got more and more, more and more pronounced. >> the pent-up tension finally erupts. >> just li

chaos erupts inside a massive security prison in belgium. >> he is a crazy man. >> but in this prison, when tensions rise, inmates can cool off in the sex room. >> two hours for sex. >> to americans, it's a country known mostly for chocolate, truffles and beer. it's considered to be one of the safest nations in the world. but criminals do exist here and the most hardcore can be found 50 miles southwest of the town of hasselt. >> this is unique, all the prisons in this country are old prisons, more than 100 years old, 150 years old. they have a good or bad culture but they always have a culture. >> at the nation's newest high security prison, hasselt employs a wide range of technology to house the inmates. but many of their policies are nothing like we've ever seen in the u.s. from 9:00 p.m. until 6:30 a.m., correctional officers are not allowed to go inside the cells without the special permission of the prison director. >> at 9:00, the big chief comes to collect the keys. you can go in the cell. >> you and -- you can't go? >> why? >> that is the rules here. >> what do you think goes

total disrespect for anyone in a prison. especially for some convict like me that's been down for so many years. and i got some kid talking trash. i know who he is. and i'll [ bleep ], i'll find him. i'm going to have a little discussion with him. >> today? >> no. i'll find him. i'll wait until you all leave. when i find the guy, i'm going to put him in the hospital. i don't kill no more. but i'm damn sure going to mean it. that's all there is to it. >> later that night, pasco again recorded himself on the camera we left him. he indicated that he had exacted revenge. >> at one point, i was doing an interview. and a bunch of wannabe inmates started yelling chomo. these idiots had to be taught a lesson. they were properly disciplined in the ways of prison etiquette. >> we checked with the authorities to see if anybody had been injured that night. and there were no reports that indicated that. >> but later, pasco shifted his thoughts from his tormenters to his victim. >> many guys ask me why i'm doing this tape. the reason why

rimonim, israel's largest maximum security prison. >> translator: the prison holds about 1,200 prisonershere we have criminals convicted of murder, robbery, rape, and many serious things. that makes it a difficult place to manage. >> while state terrorists are segregated in other facilities, rimonim only houses inmates convicted of serious crimes. as a result, security systems here are constantly evolving. >> translator: today we have the highest level of technology in israel, and the aim is to have the highest level in the whole world. we are always improving and always progressing. >> rimonim security system includes electrified fences, 700 surveillance cameras, a central system to control every door and gate in the prison, and an enclosed dog run where a canine corps patrols the perimeter 24/7. but a collection of confiscated shanks to rival that of any american prison proves there is little to stop inmates determined to commit violence. >> there is a greater risk of violence here, more than in a other prisons because this population, all in one way or another, has blood on their hand

then they transferred me to another prison. when i got to the other prison i started making n.a. and a.a. meetings. i starting going to church, reading the bible and studying. >> jones served 18 years of a 25-year sentence at a florida state prison before he was released on parole. he moved into the noah house, a residential substance abuse program in tampa. >> they help ex-offenders get a fresh start in life. they help you to stay straight. you know, i wanted to stay straight. i didn't want to go back to prison. i always, you know, participated, and so they finally gave me a job. my job title is peer advocate. and i basically help ex-offenders. >> jones was doing well. he says he would ride his bicycle to various other halfway houses to recruit participants for programs at noah house. but eight months into his parole, things went horribly wrong one day when he decided to take a short cut home through a large hole in a fence. >> i didn't know that that was a crime to cross over the railroad tracks because the whole neighborhood goes through that way, back and forth, back and fort

california state prison. corcoran. when we interviewed these men, our crew was required to wear stab-proof vests. one of the corcoran inmates we san down with was christian knighten. nobody describes the daily pressures, the ups and downs of being a predator, like he does. >> it's seductive, you know what i mean? you can love the game, but the game loves nobody. you know what i mean? you could sit there and give it your all and think everyone's supporting you, and before you know it, just like that. get your throat cut. seen it, done it. >> knighten was serving time for murder and attempted murder. crimes he committed at the los angeles county jail while awaiting trial on an outside murder/robbery charge that he was convinced would send him to prison for life. but when he went on trial for that original murder charge, something completely unexpected happened. >> they find me not guilty, and it righteously blew my mind. i had to laugh. the irony of it it was classic. >> knighten should have walked away as a free man, in

i been in prison 11 years. this is just another part of prison.king about i don't need to worry about this [ bleep ] redneck, that cracker man. this is real. this is real. that's what you need to film. that's fake and passive. fruity. >> now that percy got kicked out of the honor dorm, he was no longer required to go to anger management classes. so, just out of curiosity, i asked him what he was going to do the next day. >> what you mean? >> what's tomorrow? >> [ bleep ]. the same thing that went on out there. i just got to go to anger management. >> you've got to what? >> i just got to go to anger management. that's it. >> are you going to go? >> yeah, i'm going because i need it. >> i honestly, in my head, i thought, well, you know, this is going to be a kind of long process. he's going to have to eventually get it. but when we ended up back in the ainger management class, it was like a different person. >> frustration when they get to me, man, i lash out. i act on it. you know what i'm saying but i'm trying to learn by being around certain othe

prison julep, hooch, white lightning, whatever it's called. our crews have seen it, heard about it, smelt it, and it exists in every prison we've filmed in. >> alcohol is used daily. alcohol inside our correctional institutions are a very big problem. because it only takes a small amount of time to make the alcohol. and just about everyone does it. so it's a constant cat and mouse game. >> this is a bag of pruno we discovered in an inmate cell just a couple of days ago. a regular garbage bag and inside you can smell the sweet smell of the pruno itself and the apples. >> how much could that serve? it looks like it would fill a keg. >> actually i would say it will serve up to five or ten people all depending. some of the inmates actually even sell the pruno. >> -- cocktail? >> i guess if you go to the right person, i'm sure you could. i don't know the particulars of it. i said i've got caught with it. i don't know the makeup and how to do it. and even if i did, i probably wouldn't divulge that. >> but we've met plenty of officers and inmates who

paul's mother was given 90 years. >> as far as i know, she's the old ed woman prisoner in the state prison of indiana. >> paul was eligible for parole after 26 years and we were there the day he was released. >> you'll never see me here again after today. >> komyatti quickly landed a factory job and was doing well. >> if you want to wake up with that attitude in the morning that today will be a good day, today is going to be better than yesterday. >> but komyatti could never have prepared for the bizarre chain of events ahead of him. six months after his release, three indiana state prison inmates staged a daring escape. komyatti found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time. he and a friend had gone to a casino and was seen by an off-duty correctional officer the same night three inmates got away. komyatti was picked up for facilitating the escape and was eventually cleared of any involvement. but because he had violated his parole by driving a car with only a learner's permit, he was sent back to prison. less than a year later, he was a free man once again. but within 30 days of bei

he was born in a prison.ctually ended up taking the kitten out of the little carry-on case and walking through the security system with it. >> didn't make a sound the entire flight. just chilled out, relaxed, and turned out to be a great cat. >> one of them kittens went all the way to california. >> he might be living better than you and me are. >> i know he's living better than me. he's free, other side of this fence. >> i bet he's in an air conditioned house. >> the cat has had the life of riley ever since. i mean, this cat has an amazing life. and we would hear periodically from some of the inmates and staff always asking about the cat. and i believe brian named this kitten doc, for department of corrections. >> doc is great. he's still very bold. he's a mouser. i mean like an incredible mouser. usually a few times a week he'll bring in mice from outside or rats from outside and we live near the mountains so there's quite a bit of wildlife and he'll bring us a trophy pretty much a couple times a week. [ ph

two decades in prison.ectional facility in alabama and sometimes it seems to have been just as long since he's heard the sound of his real name. >> they call me redtop. >> hey, redtop. they call me ring-a-ting red. >> is there one you prefer? >> none. i just answer to them all. i've learned to answer to them all over the years. >> stall began serving his sentence 28 years earlier when he was just 22 years old. >> like when i first came here, there was a lot of violence. >> was it scary? were you scared a lot? >> scared to death. >> my first impression of lawrence stall was that he doesn't fit. he didn't fit in those surroundings. and i think that's initially what brought us to him. he looked a little meek. the red hair. the glasses. he looked more like a college professor versus an inmate. >> the social system in here is totally different. it's nothing like the free world. it's a totally different world, you know? i mean, it's like moving to japan and not knowing japanese, you know? it's exactly, you know,

for example, if they escape with their prison clothes, keeping the prison clothes is a crime.the clothes back. and in the past we have someone who escaped, jumping out of the window. after two, three days, we get the clothes back washed and cleaned. so he didn't make any crime. >> and even though belgium has one of the world's lowest crime rates, we met our share of murderers there as well. but shawn schaeffer's interview was one of the more unusual ones we conducted. we met him in the segregation unit of prison haselt, a maximum security facility. >> on 30 december, i killed my wife. >> okay. why and how? >> i killed her with a big knife. >> why? >> because i had no gun with me. >> okay. but why did you kill her? >> oh, why? i was very, very angry that she want to leave. for her, no problem, huh? but she wants to take my son. and she wants to move with the son to germany. >> schaeffer, a korean adopted by a dutch family, said he had outstanding charges in germany, that could have led to a two-year sentence if he followed his wife into the country. after arguing, he stabbed he

there is a reason for prison. prison as a punishment. i get that.you take that people that do bad things can you put them in prison. some other for a long time. some other forever. i understand that but for others that do their time they serve their probation and they get back into society or they are trying to get back into society to be a successful citizen. get rid of the conviction. get it off the record. do something that helps, give them back their civil and constitutional rights. because as it stands today they are a second class citizen until the day they die. about how good they are and how could they become afterward. >> hi. sharon, voice of the monitor quick question that i believe their selective prosecution but also the doj -- and i'm wrong and please correct me, but why would look at some people like maybe jimmy hazlett who gets to pay a 92 my dollars fine, his company, i think 32 billion a year so people like you and others to jail times like a different issue but like -- you what a joke united halfway time vigorous intellect are some

we were in ad seg, administrative segregation, the prison within a prison. we started hearing inmates screaming out things and i started to hear them talking about cho-mos, which are sex offenders and then mayhem erupted. [ bleep ]. >>. >> i believe he threw a liquid substance under the door that smelled somewhat suspicious and we're going to report that. >> jonathan hall, serving 40 years for murder, was one of the first inmates to make it clear we weren't welcome in administrative segregation. >> unless he does calm down and follow our rules and orders, he'll be cell extracted. >> inmate hall won't calm down. so they call in the special response team. and they suit up in their gear. in these situations, when we want to film it, they always have us suit up as well. >> if he doesn't comply at that point, we'll introduce o.c. >> you got it? >> uh-huh. >> inmate hall, come to the door and cuff up. if you do not cuff up, we will introduce chemical agents. are you going to comply? >> introduce o.c. >> hall has covered his food port and window with a mattress. bu

to prison. but each one brings stark reminders of how life is about to change. >> let me tell you this one more time and one more time only. no one will be allowed to have any type of gym shoes. we have shoes that fit you. there will be no doctor's excuses. i have high arches, my feet are bad. that's your problem. >> at the joliet correctional center in illinois, a boot camp like orientation begins the intake process. >> you may keep 12 envelopes. you can keep 24 pictures. anything after 24 pictures will be sent home or destroyed. >> you start listening to specific directions and you tell them what the expectation level are. if anybody causes a problem you take them out of the equation immediately. and by doing that, you maintain that control. >> some people have been there several times before, and it's quite frankly almost a homecoming to them. and then you can always read what they refer to as the fresh fish. >> oh, man. i've heard stories about what goes on at night here. i've heard stories

been back in prison.ain't going to help you out. that's not going to happen. >> roy is fortunate to have found work. but his parole imposes a 4:00 p.m. curfew and prohibits him from leaving the county. he spends much of his free time on the computer. >> i didn't even know how to turn the computer on until recently. my sister come down from montana and gave me a computer. she said, here's your getting out of prison gift. good luck. >> roy has his own myspace page. and along with millions of others, he views his extraction footage on "lockup" clips that appear on msnbc.com. >> when you're down like that, clothes cut off of you, naked as a jaybird, put down on the floor, man, you're at the bottom. it don't get no worse than that. it just don't. i hope when it's all said and done, someday when i'm six feet under, i hope this isn't what defines my life. >> still, the videos have made a definite impression. >> can i get a dollar for every person that views this? i'm just asking. oh, check this out. slagle is re

in american prison.ead. the food looked fresh. it wasn't processed and it was ladled out, served out fresh. it was a different visual for me in terms of seeing the food. we walked into this one area and this massive vats of dough and yeast were being prepared for this homemade bread that they serve the inmates, so they offered us a chance to try it. i delved into that bread, it was so delicious. this bread was probably the tastiest bread i have ever had. it was that good. >> but most inmates we have met prefer their own culinary concoctions to prison fare. james meek, an inmate at hmp shots prison in scotland is a self-trained saucier and keeps an impressive collection of spices to turn mundane prison grub into something exotic. >> spices. to make curries and that. but you've got to wash out the meat and things like that, you know. and then you make your own sauce and put the meat back and then add your sauce together. because some of the curries they make are rubbish. >>> not to the outdone by their pee

we see that a lot when we're filming in prisons.se guys have become so acclimated to prison life, they're more comfortable there than in the free world, and the first time i met joe, he had been in trouble for some kind of infraction. he was constantly getting in trouble, but he also told me that he was due to be released soon, and without skipping a beat then said he was terrified of getting out. >> and i keep snapping at these cos and picking up reports. you know, it's like almost like i'm doing it on purpose so i don't have to go. >> sanchez had just gotten a disciplinary write-up for insulting a female staff member. >> i snapped at her and yelled at her. and she got her little feelings hurt. if her feelings are going to go get hurt, go work it off at a damn church. you got no right working in a place like this where people are going to speak their minds. >> sanchez's petulance continued during his disciplinary hearing. >> i don't care. >> and in the meantime, i don't want to hear anything out of you. i want you to maintain -- >>

the dreaded prison of mexico. and thought to be the hardest prison by far in north america. it was built for 800 people. but now held 4,000. rumor had it that there were 200 murders a year in lecumberri. you did your time or went out in a box. immediately the commandos put me on work detail. the commandos were other prisoners who worked for the mayor of the dormitory. they wore white armbands. they did the dirty work. i had been in prison three months. and one day there was a new american prisoner really getting beaten up. >> hey! leave him alone! >> we jumped in and pulled off the commandos and then they began swinging at us. the next thing i knew, there were guards barging in. >> okay. >> the warden sees us and he says to me -- >> you are castigano now. >> on punishment detail. they sent me to dorm "a." this was a dormitory of 400 prisoners who were recidivist murderers. i am the only gringo in this dorm, and i am panicked. >> okay, okay, okay. >> and they start going, money, we need money, money, money. >> i've got no money. what are you doing? >> two guys grab each leg a

my mom right now currently is getting ready to retire from tracy prison. she's not a cop, she's an accountant. she works for the corrections department. >> when kirkpatrick left his gang, he asked his family to take him back. >> all these letters i have all over my bed right here, 90% of those are from my mom. >> but there are complications. kirkpatrick's past makes it impossible for him to even keep pictures of his relatives, including his mother. >> oh, i don't want one. my mom don't like the way she looks in pictures. i said, it doesn't matter, i'm your son, it's not like i'm going to go around showing it. she's like but what you don't understand is i work for cdc. i don't want my picture going through and people might recognize me or know who i am. i was like all right, i understand. and that's [ bleep ] up because that shows that she's ashamed of me. you know what i'm saying? that's the way i see it. >> leaving his gang also left kirkpatrick struggling for a sense of identity. >> it was like okay, i went to prison now and now i'm a dropout. what i cal

the average maximum security prison costs about $85,000 per prisoner per year. even if you just add in all the extra security with gitmo, you won't make up another, whatever over $2 million per prisoner. i think i have a good solution. i understand richard's points yes, we should keep american values. i also understand john's points. you know have they made a good point? well what congressman or senator would not want gitmo in their backyard? well we made that same argument though when we were developing nuclear reactors. who would not want one in their backyard? then the congressmen figured out, wait a second there's a couple thousand jobs being created there. i'm not in favor of the government creating jobs. so why don't we just replicate what we have with gitmo in some desolate part of north dakota or alaska or something like that. we create jobs and save money. we put these prisoners where they were where they should be on american soil. >> well, north dakota and alaska they are citizens there and don't necessarily want the terrorists. but hadley how do you

that's a permanent scar forever. >> most of the prisons we profile on "lockup" are maximum security prisons. i mean, these are hardcore places with gang members, rapists, murderers. every once in a while we come across a fish out of water story, the guy next door, the neighbor. where you ask the question, how did this guy end up here? >> this is california state prison, corcoran. a maximum security prison that has housed some of the nation's most infamous criminals including charles manson and the founder of the mexican mafia. despite its reputation, violence doesn't come naturally to everyone at corcoran. >> i don't see myself as being like many of the people here. what i saw the longer i was here is there really is a thin line between them and me. >> before he was an inmate, stefan parro was a librarian. >> i'm here basically because i'm an alcoholic and i've done a lot of drugs, too. drugs are part of my story. >> parro's drug use resulted in a six-year sentence for crimes including burglary. >> at that time i had been married not very long. my wife was pregnant. the fact i couldn't stop

a level 4 prison located on the barren plains of eastern colorado. [ livestock moos ] the prison sits on 320 acres and houses inmates in six different living units. >> the type of offenders that we have at limon are violent offenders. 64% violent. 244 are serving a life sentence. limon has had a reputation of being a violent prison amongst the offender population. they do tend to send the majority of violent offenders to limon. >> it's crazy how cold it is. >> i'm too damn skinny for this. >> oh, my god. last time i was on tv, they were chasing me. >> put your arms up. put your hands behind your penis. >> all right, ears. hair. armpits. >> as a level 4 facility, limon houses many of colorado's most dangerous inmates. while some of today's arrivals are new to prison, others have been through the process numerous times before. one in particular comes with a reputation that precedes him. >> we have one coming off the bus going straight to segregation. that would be inmate timot schreiber. >> timothy schreiber has transferred here from another state prison. unlike most new arrivals, he is

this is like prison within prison. someone is going to try to gun you down. these guys are going to get combative with you. these guys will try to stab you, and, hence, the stab vest i have to wear. this is idu. this is the real deal. [ bleep ] and you've got to have a thick skin to work here too. >> oh, no! >> they've got an overflowed toilet on idu. got to go up and clean up. i'm the backup. i've got to clean blood, crap, urine, overflowed toilets. you know, it's a glamour job. what i'm anticipating, just cleaning up some swamp water. unless there's a man-eating turd in there or something like that, i'm pretty well safe. but then, again, with the food we get here, you never know. >> stone's a good person. he's a hard worker. one of the hardest workers that i know. >> hey, don't clean that stuff. >> getting ready to. >> he's a convict. a convict is one of the older ones. >> oh, right here. here we are. spilled toilet. >> the difference is they respect more people in here. the officers -- i think they respect the officers. they have jobs. they go to work. the

prison. that's what goes on out here. >> surrounded by little else but big skies, the wabash valley correctional facility houses more than 2,000 convicted felons, including some of the highest security prisoners in the state. it is a fortress among farms. >> we have a total of seven towers blanketing the entire facility, including one tower that's in the center of our south yard. we've got the two sets of fences all the way around the facility. the inner fence is a stun fence, it's a nonlethal stun fence. the outside fence another 14-foot fence covered with razor ribbon. shaker alarm on the motion detector. motion detector in between the fences. we think our perimeter is very, very secure for us. >> security is tight inside the perimeter as well. especially in the secured confinement unit which houses the prison's most violent and disruptive inmates. today internal affairs investigator frank littlejohn has been called to the unit to investigate a report that possible escape paraphernalia has

for example, if they escape with the prison clothes, keeping those prison clothes is a crime unless theyd the clothes back and in the past we had someone who escaped jumping out of the window. we get the clothes back and washed and cleaned. he didn't make any crime. >> even though belgium has one of the lowest crime rates, shawn schaefer's interview is one of the more unusual ones. we met him in the segregation unit in the mac mum security facility. >>> 30 december, i killed my wife. >> okay. why and how? >> i killed her with a big knife. >> why? >> because i had no gun with me. >> okay, but why did you kill her? >> oh, because i was angry that she won't leave. for her, no problem, but she won't take my son and she wants to move with my son to germany. >> schaefer, a korean adopted by a dutch family said he had outstanding charges in germany that could have led to a two-year sentence if he it will followed his wife into the country. after arguing he stabbed her numerous times. >> three times in the neck, two times in the back, two, three, in total, 10. with a big knife. >> how many? >> k

so as a result, and unsurprisingly, prisons have become more overcrowded. and we talk about that in our report, as well. what can we say about specific policies though? first, in terms of effect on crime and then on people, is suggest there is also impact impact on the incarcerated community. the committee found that although high rates of incarceration have been driven by long sentences, particularly in the 1990's, there is little evidence of a strong deterrent effect. long sentences have little incapacitated effects. long sentences have the effect of incarcerating older people who tend to be much less criminally active, with long sentences, penal severity has come to focus on those who no longer present much of a threat to public safety. with little evidence supporting a very popular belief that crime is reduced by high rates of incarceration, there is also much evidence indicating that long sentences, in particular, do little to reduce crime, either through deterrence or through incapacitation. in addition to the effect of incarceration on crime, the com

you know, $25,000 per prisoner, per year. in the federal system it's probably something like 30 something thousand per year. that's where we're putting our money. >> a lot of the guys in baltimore were basically raised with no father. so when you don't have a male figure, role model type of guy to follow, then you start resorting to other male figures. tv, streets, homeboys who are probably four or five years older than you. >> if we don't have that family foundation, you know, you definitely don't have a chance. >> these kids are just chewed up and spit out. and they're broken, they get the criminal record, they can't get jobs, you know they go to prison, they come home. the same thing repeats itself until their bodies eventually break down. >> it was kind of scary coming through. 'cause when you first come in you're just with like all adults, you're just surrounded by adults that are in bad moods because they're getting locked up. like it's just a bad experience. >> located in the very heart of the city, the baltimore city

i think he wants to move to another prison. there's another prison closer to where his family is. it's not as easy as lifting the floor and moving him. we'd have to meet certain criteria which he doesn't meet at the moment. once he's addressed his needs, then we'll look at that again. >> i come from greenock. that's a long-term prison. in greenock. and i would like to go there because i come from there. and with 14 months left of my sentence, i would like to finish it in my hometown. so i've suggested that. they said they'll look to see if i fit the criteria. which i do, i think. because i'm not a troublemaker. >> you've been put in front of me this morning for using threatening, abusive, or assaulting words of behavior. okay. when being served with a report, he became abusive to me telling me to get the [ bleep ] -- is that correct? >> aye. >> though officials may argue reid's claim of not being a troublemaker, even reid acknowledges that wherever and whenever he finishes his sentence, he'll have issues to deal with. >> so what happens when you get out of prison? >> what happens?

. >> msnbc takes you behind the walls of america's most notorious prisons. into a world of chaos and danger. now, the scenes we've never seen. "lockup: raw." >> with "lockup" we film in some of the toughest prisons in america. and every time we send a crew out to a maximum security prison you never know what might happen with regards to violence. whether it's a stabbing, or whether it's a fight in the yard, or even a riot. there's always a chance that violence may break out. >> we found that was the case when we visited california's legendary folsom state prison. >> i can feel it. it's like electricity in the air. it's so thick you can actually breathe in the tension. >> in the blink of an eye, that much time, it can change. because there is the real threat that an attitude or temper can change in just a moment. >> and tempers did flare while our cameras were in the yard. >> we had just gotten done interviewing a, basically, a prison preacher. >> i'm a born-again christian. and i believe that everybody should know the lord. if you don't know the lord, i enco

at 14, she's condemned to die in prison. she goes to prison and is raped by a male guard. she gets pregnant. she has been in jail now for 40 years and that suffering continues. there are many children like that, who suffered these horrible injustices because we imposed a mandatory sentence that would not consider their age at the time of sentencing. we don't let kids vote, drink smoke, and we protect child status, except when they are cruised -- are accused of a crime. this whole country is now populated by jails and prisons where you find children. the 15 states with no minimum chop -- minimum age for trying a child as an adult. a 12-year-old in the state of florida. it is really shameful what we have done to children in the name of being tough on crime. i think that disconnect is part of what we are try to expose without litigation. amy: what gives you must hope? brian: when you tell people about these realities, when you get people to actually look am i for most people saw what i seek him i think they would be outraged. they would demand justice. i am hopeful that we ar

i mean, that's the system. >> but the decision is not up to prison officials.e body's new plea bargain was negotiated. depending on the attorney general's final decision, body could become eligible for parole immediately or not for another two years. >> i'm prematurely going to prerelease class. >> the prison has put him into a program for inmates about to re-enter society. >> finding a job, reuniting with family, communicating with your community parole officer, juggling appointments, struggling with money, getting around on the bus, housing issues, avoiding old habits or negative relationships, substance abuse issues and health problems. so do you feel like we covered those stressors pretty well and how best to cope with them? mr. body, how do you feel about that? >> you look at the things that eventually brought you here in the penitentiary. >> exactly. >> so you know you have to stay away from that stuff. but, you know, my biggest thing would be getting reacquainted with the world and the new technologies and, you know, because when i came here, a cell phon