i spoke to steve gillan earlier, the general secretary at the prison officers' association to hear hisrspective as a trade union, we don't want to see anybody escape from prison at all. i note with interest here that the prime minister's office has said there is no plans to have an independent inquiry into this. i think there should be, because i think the independent inquiry, if there was one, into this escape, would understand the difficulties that might members at wandsworth are absolutely facing. not just yesterday, but on a daily basis, from short staffing levels to inexperienced, they got rid of experienced staff, with horrific of experienced staff, with horrific budget cuts between 2010 and 2015. i think this is a wake—up call for government, and i actually think now that they need to engage. we have a good relationship with alex chalk, actually, secretary of state. we have been telling alex chalk that we can't go on like this with the short staffing levels we have. steve, do you have reason to believe that wandsworth prison was understaffed ? i will put it this way, it was unde

but the prison officers' association says that while it does not want to speculate about the issues surroundingt, it claims that wandsworth prison is overcrowded, and has chronic staffing shortages — which it is blaming on cuts to the prisons budget. we'll be speaking to them live shortly. in the last few minutes thejustice secretary alex chalk has given an update in the house of commons — announcing an independent review. we will hear that shortly. but first... live now to the bbc�*s mark lobel who is outside wandsworth prison in south london. what is the latest? nearly 30 hours on, the manhunt continues and gives us her new details about what happened from thejustice secretary who said at 730 am yesterday morning, wednesday, the delivery van left the kitchen inside that prison where the terrorist, suspected terrorist daniel khalife was working as a chef and they found strapping underneath the truck which was found there and it was stopped and searched, that truck. suddenly there was a search on for the former member of the british army who was meant to be facing a court case on the 13th of no

now, the prison officers' association has highlighted some £900 million has been stripped out of the going to be more prisons thanjust once 2010, which is going to be more prisons than just once were overcrowded and under resourced. so, can i ask the minister, the prison officers' association's national che this morning has today called for an urgent review of how prisons across england and wales have been run. —— national chair. i appreciate that the minister has announced two separate strands of inquiry from the dispatch box, which i be welcome. but would he expand the scope for that inquiry, into how prisons across england and wales are run in light of these concerns that inquiry, into how prisons across england and wales are run in light of these concerns the type and raise? yes, that is the uk'sjustice secretary, alex chalk. answering questions from members of parliament about the escape of daniel khalife, from wandsworth prison. he said that daniel khalife will be courts, and he gave an account of what is believed to have been happen. he said that was not likely escaped around 7

live now to mark fairhurst, the national chair of the prison officers' association. about whether the prison was stabbed adequately or not. fit whether the prison was stabbed adequately or not.— adequately or not. of course it wasn't, adequately or not. of course it wasn't. and — adequately or not. of course it wasn't, and these _ adequately or not. of course it wasn't, and these figures - adequately or not. of course it wasn't, and these figures are i adequately or not. of course it. wasn't, and these figures are very confusing from the ministry of justice. they're saying 120 staff are on duty, but they were staff shorts, which means they should have been 200. i can confirm on the morning of the escape, there were only 84 prison officers on duty at wandsworth prison, clearly not safe. they're pushing back and saying everyone was accounted for, these numbers had nothing to do with the actual escape of this prisoner. {lit actual escape of this prisoner. of course they have everything to do with the escape of the prisoner. they're with the escape of the prisoner. they�*

i have spoken to the prison 0fficers' have spoken to the prison officers' association who informed mers are not there on a given ship, it is only appropriate for basic things to be conducted on that day, such as feeding and exercise. double the percentage were off that day so 40% of staff were not on ship that day, meaning there was no reason that people should have been in education or work that day, and there was no reason for daniel khalifa to be in the kitchen that morning. they speaks to the wider erosion of public services across the country. we have an nhs waiting left —— waiting list to the roof, schools falling down at the prison service so woefully under resourced for so long that we are people escaping and staff going to work feeling desperately unsafe. staff going to work feeling deseratel unsafe. . ~ , ., desperately unsafe. taking your life to olitical desperately unsafe. taking your life to political corresponding _ desperately unsafe. taking your life to political corresponding pizza, - to political corresponding pizza, just remind us of what happened here. he just rem

we've heard from the prison 0fficers' we've heard from the prison officers' association this morning eeds to take responsibility for the decimation of the prison service saying wandsworth is a typical example of what life is like for serving prison officers and at 1230 pm on bbc news, we will hear from the prisoners association and the justice secretary alex chalk from the prisoners association and thejustice secretary alex chalk in thejustice secretary alex chalk in the house of commons. meanwhile, there's another ongoing manhunt — this time in the us. a convicted murderer is still at large, more than a week after he escaped from prison in pennsylvania. new footage has emerged. the individual seen here crab walking up a wall going through razor wire and escaping. he was sentenced last week to life in prison for killing his former girlfriend. here's the pennsylvania police department describing the risk posed by the fugitive. we do consider him to be a very dangerous individual. he is convicted of homicide here. he was involved, i am told, in another homicide in brazil some years ago.

. >> yeah, well, we know from the prison officers as association that there are high absence rates becauseare under strength. they say that the conditions that they work in are appalling and that has an effect on them, on their health and their mental health. the level of kind of prison violence and assaults against staff is high as well. so all that could feed in to a situation on the ground where you get high absence levels because people are just thoroughly fed up and not in the right mental space to be attending work. and if that is the case, then there are some serious questions. first for the governor and the manager of that prison to answer , but then prison to answer, but then further up the chain for the ministry of defence minister of justice and the prison service to answer. and again, as well as the government. >> so the question about why he was in wandsworth and not a a prison, well that again is also subject of an urgent review. >> we know that 40 other people that were being held on remand at wandsworth have now been moved out of that prison. a rapid assessment of their sui

i have spoken to the prison officers association who informed me that, if 20% of staff members are not it is only appropriate for basic things to be conducted on that day, such as feeding and exercise. double the percentage were off that day, so 40% of staff were not on shift that day, meaning that there was no reason that people should have been in education or work that day, and there was certainly no reason for daniel khalife to be in the kitchen that morning. this speaks to the wider erosion of our public services that we have across the country. we have nhs waiting lists that are through the roof, we have schools that are falling down around us, and now we have a prison service that has been so woefully under—resourced for so long that we have people escaping and staff going to work feeling desperately unsafe. breaking news, on the case of the former nurse who was convicted of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder another six, lucy letby. the latest news coming in is that she is set to appeal her convictions. her legal team has today lodged an application to appeal, acco

the prison officers' association has blamed the government for what it calls the "decimation of the servicee that there were significant staff shortages, so i looked about investigating this and actually discovered that in december last year, only seven members of staff turned up for a night shift to look after 1500 inmates. daniel khalife has been on the run for more than 2a hours. police are urging anyone who sees him to call 999. graham satchell, bbc news. mark lobel is following all developments and he is at wandsworth prison. well, it was around this time yesterday, matthew, that we got the news that he had escaped, the appeal to the public was released by the police, and since then, we have had nothing from the police. now, it's interesting because at the moment they're still saying the suspect probably remains in the london area. but of course, you look around you, matthew, and we see what's happening in the airports and the ports. we see what's happening on the m20, a major motorway leading to the port of dover, and we can see that there are huge queues there because of enhanced sec

the prison officers' association has blamed the government for what it calls the "decimation of the servicee aware that there were significant staff shortages, so i looked about investigating this and actually discovered that in december last year, only seven members of staff turned up for a night shift to look after 1,500 inmates. daniel khalife has been on the run for more than 2a hours. police are urging anyone who sees him to call 999. graham satchell, bbc news. charlie taylor is the chief inspector of prisons. he told bbc world at 0ne�*s sarah montague he was concerned by the escape. this is very concerning, because wandsworth had a previous escape in 2019 as well, and obviously any prisoner getting out ofjail is an extremely rare event, particularly a prisoner who is accused of a terrorist offence makes it all the worse. but to some extent, our concerns about wandsworth over a number of years make it a jail that is more likely for this sort of thing to happen, particularly the lack of staffing which has dogged the prison. i think when we last inspected at the end of 2021, they were 30

prison officers. the union warns this is the union called the pfison this is the union called the prison officers associationsociation. i guess is saying there are corrupt officers that are sent in to the prisons to sell drugs and cell phones and here's the here's their own union ratting on these people. they assume that their members well, they say the more common thing is that get in, you start that once you get in, you start doing . doing it. >> yeah, apparently you might end relationship end up in a relationship with one inmates. end up in a relationship with one that|mates. end up in a relationship with one that was es. end up in a relationship with one that was back day, >> and that was back in the day, slip sliding into this world. >> and say, don't we, >> and we always say, don't we, that go to prison, that when people go to prison, it's school so it it's a school of crime. so it turns everyone attend turns out everyone can attend even prison officer officers. >> yeah, because each hmp bennyn in north wales 18 female guards were fired and three were jailed for having relationships with prisoners. yea

the prison officers' association has blamed the government for what it calls the "decimation of the servicere were significant staff shortages, so i looked about investigating this and actually discovered that in december last year, only seven members of staff turned up for a night shift to look after 1500 inmates. daniel khalife has been on the run for more than 2a hours. police are urging anyone who sees him to call 999. graham satchell, bbc news. meanwhile, charlie taylor, his majesty's chief inspector of prisons, told sarah montague on the world at one that prisons are now failing in their core duties. i think, ultimately, ithink, ultimately, prisons i think, ultimately, prisons have two responsibilities. they have a public protection responsibility to keep people locked up and to stop them getting out, and so they serve their sentence, them getting out, and so they serve theirsentence, but them getting out, and so they serve their sentence, but they also have a public protection responsibility to make sure people are less likely to reoffend when they come out. and if prisoners are comi

the prison officers�* association says individual staff should not be blamed for an underfunded prisoncourt. an 11—year—old girl who was subject to a horrfying attack by an american bully xl dog has told the bbc she was terrified and screaming in fear. anna paun and two men were bitten by the dog in birmingham on saturday. the government is seeking urgent advice on whether to ban the breed. 0ur midlands correspondent navteonhal reports. a violent dog attack on the streets of birmingham. it bites a young girl who runs to safety in a shop. it then goes to attack to other people ——it then goes to attack two other people at a car wash nearby. the footage was posted online at the weekend. anna, who is 11, is now recovering at home after returning from hospital last night. she told me about the moment she was attacked. the dog was staring at me and i got scared so i started to run and i never ran that far, only ran for about five seconds. so the dog grabbed my hand and he started moving me around. someone grabbed him off my hand and after he let go of my arm he went on my shoulder and he bit

disagree with that because i have in fact spoken l that because i have in fact spoken to the prison officers' association is only appropriate for basic things to be conducted on that day such as feeding and exercise. double that percentage of that day so 40% of staff not on shift that they meaning there is no reason people should have been in education or work that day and certainly no reason for daniel khalife to have beenin reason for daniel khalife to have been in the kitchen that morning. what are the other implications of that drop in staffing when you say 80 prison officers are not there? what else are you hearing from them about how that changes things inside the prison? tt’s about how that changes things inside the rison? �* , , about how that changes things inside the rison? h , about how that changes things inside the rison? fl , ., the prison? it's hugely impact of firstly from _ the prison? it's hugely impact of firstly from a _ the prison? it's hugely impact of firstly from a safety _ the prison? it's hugely impact ofj firstly from a safety perspective, it is becoming more and more difficult

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we're joined now by mark fairhurst from the prison officers association, which represents prison stafff the kitchen and straight through the gates, can you give us a sense of what you made of that? it give us a sense of what you made of that? , , .., . ~ that? it is very concerning. poa members _ that? it is very concerning. poa members will — that? it is very concerning. poa members will be _ that? it is very concerning. poa members will be gutted. - that? it is very concerning. poa members will be gutted. what i that? it is very concerning. poa l members will be gutted. what we that? it is very concerning. poa - members will be gutted. what we must understand at once were, it is chronically overcrowded and chronically overcrowded and chronically understaffed. we are not able to retain staff we recruit. i am worried now what sort of staffing levels were on duty at the time but more importantly, what sort of training had staff received in critical areas in the prison? we need to find out what has gone wrong here. irate need to find out what has gone wrong here. ~ , , ., ,, ., ., ., her

. >> yeah, it's the prison officers association , which is officers association, which is the union thatare going into prisons with this sole aim of smuggling in contraband . and there are contraband. and there are there's too much corruption happening. and one of the things they're blaming is online interview. as they say, there's not scrutiny happening at not enough scrutiny happening at that interview stage . and you i that interview stage. and you i mean, i listen to your interview with mark. i thought it was extraordinary at and, you know, people like him going into pnsons people like him going into prisons to try and help kids is the kind of children who were involved in the murder of his son. i just think that's so powerful. and then you've got this other side where people are just using the loopholes and the laxness of the prison system to make money. yeah. and smuggle in drugs and make everything worse for those people in those prisons. and i just it just breaks my heart . breaks my heart. >> charlie taylor , who's the >> charlie taylor, who's the chief inspector of prisons , ha

you've got the prison officers association saying that there are too few staff to look after too many the prison estate happens to be wandsworth, in this case. but the reason is that over the years, the prisons have been underfunded. that they've been left understaffed . and that is left understaffed. and that is the problem. so suddenly today , the problem. so suddenly today, alex chalk, the justice secretary, is talking about getting getting 40 prisoners out of wandsworth and putting them somewhere else. why wasn't that done before? why wasn't it done anyway ? regardless of an escape anyway? regardless of an escape happening , i thought it was happening, i thought it was a bit an anti—climax, actually bit of an anti—climax, actually , the way caught, because , the way he was caught, because not glad he was caught. >> and of course. you >> and of course. but you know, you this. like you heard this. it's like a great escape. we love a great escape. best escape. one of the best movies ever. escape. one of the best movies ever . and, know, kind ever. and, you know, you're kind of a sort

prison service, we heard from the general secretary of the prison 0fficers' association, the trade union that represents proven track prison officerscompliment of 120, and it was down to 60 or 70, a significant reduction in what should be the staffing levels there. they have cut back on perimeter checks, they have cut back on excel inspections, what are known as fabric checks, of the cells, so there have been some quite big cuts in the prison services in the uk which have enabled possibly enabled, this person to escape. it is quite a remarkable story. if anyone has seen the robert de niro version, strapping to the underside of a vehicle, it is like something out of a film. this is a serious issue, and is due to the cutbacks in the prison service. almost certainly. when i listen to prison officers are saying, this isjust a matter of time, especially those living in the vicinity of wandsworth prison might be quite concerned as well. the investigation _ be quite concerned as well. the investigation is _ be quite concerned as well. the investigation is under way, and i'm sure, in the time, we will be learning what did happen. bryan, wh

prison officers. that is one | of the problems and andrea, you are not serving as a prison governor but you are a prison governor as well as being in charge of the prison governors association confidence in the prison service?— prison service? i can't talk about the specifics _ prison service? i can't talk about the specifics once _ prison service? i can't talk about the specifics once with _ prison service? i can't talk about the specifics once with i - prison service? i can't talk about the specifics once with i would . prison service? i can't talk about| the specifics once with i would be making _ the specifics once with i would be making assumptions and that would be unfair— making assumptions and that would be unfair for— making assumptions and that would be unfair for my making assumptions and that would be unfairfor my members making assumptions and that would be unfair for my members in wandsworth. but i unfair for my members in wandsworth. but i do _ unfair for my members in wandsworth. but i do think— unfair for my members in wandsworth. but i do think i'll prisons need investment, we need to invest in our staff to _ investment, we need to invest in our staff to m

for associates for public works according to public record the amounts we are talking about reach $1 billion. she was sentenced to six years in prison given a lifetime ban on holding public officeor current political role grants or immunity from jail. i'm not aware of any such restriction placed by congress from sanctioning her under section 7031 see you sanction the sitting paraguay and vice president last year. you have sanction former presidents in panama and ecuador. no one denies an effect argentina courts have confirmed christina fernandez is a kleptocratic. she has been indicted for obstructing investigations into iranian terrorism. why has he bite administration not sanctioned her? >> this administration has use the tools for sanctions in both visa and financial sanctions repeatedly and numerous instances. you talk about sanctioning leaders and certainly nicaragua comes toin mind we place sanctis on scores and scores of officials. >> might question concerned argentina have you why do not sanction fernandez? >> the united states does not discuss the pending sanction action i would not be able to discuss what we will it will not do. >> you're refusing to answer that and i

associates for public works but according to the public record amounts we are talking about reach $1 billion. she was sentenced to six years in prison and given a lifetime ban on holding public officeher current political role grants for immunity from jail. i'm not aware of any such restrictions placed by congress on you from sanctioning her under sections 7031c be sanctioned a sitting pair of way and vice president last year. yet sanction former president of penn among ecuador. no one denies can affect argentina's court system confirms kristina fernandez is a kleptocratic been indicted for obstructing investigations into iranian terrorism. why is the biden administration not sanctioned her? >> this administration has used the tools for sanctions both of these and financial sanctions repeatedly in numerous instances and you talk about sanctioning left-wing leaders and certainly nicaragua comes to mind we placed sanctions on scores and scores of officials and neck lockup. >> my question concerns argentina why have you not sanctioned fernandez? >> i would not be able to discuss what we will or will not do. >> you are refusing to answer than i had to say this is changing year ago i wr