with me in new york is michael purves, guy lebas, and priya misra, td securities.re in argentina are throwing rates up to 40%, some would argue you are guessing now. what do you need to do to get this done? argentina is a specific case when it comes to e.m. and it almost brings us back to the brady bond days. think there has been a stronger dollar high rate in the u.s.. the argentina story is specific to argentina. jonathan: there is an idiosyncratic reason, where there is some string that aligns these two things, it is central bank credibility. there almost is none. you see that in turkey and in argentina. is that the similarity? has a prettyey loose monetary situation and fiscal condition that isn't construct of. -- constructive. both of those things -- you are going to get a little old-fashioned e.m. central bank and fiscal credibility issues converging at the same time. >> more broadly, the story for e.m. the last year and half has been to get longer yen and pay -- play the currency risk because the dollar will get weaker. the dollar move has made people more u