he showed a chart, senator .onrad he says it is our greatest national security prlem. think about that. if you do not want those people crating the next big thing over there but over here, there will not be any money for it. if you are a business guy like me, small businesses cannot grow and cannot create jobs without money. you know, they will be starved for capital if this budget continues to grow as it is today. >> thank you. my time is expired. we will go to 5 minute rounds. we will make an exception for senator sessions. five minute rounds because of the number of people we have. senator sessions. >> the remarks you have just made are very sobering. it goes beyond the academic or theoretical to a warning of an immediate and dangerous threat is before us. the language you use in your written statement, i noticed it was pretty stark. "we believe if we do not take the site -- divisive action, we face the most predictable crisis and history." i cannot dispute that. the more i read about it, the more i believe that is true. i believe we need to take action. let me ask

all that being said, you asked whether the fiscal policy was a prlem. i think the long-term unsustainability of our debt is a significant problem because it threatens higher interest rates, less confidence, and it could have impact on t current recovery. and so i have been urging congress to address these problems, not just in the current fiscal year. but looking over a longer time frame because it is, in fact, over the next 10 or 20 years, that these problems are going to be extraordinarily pressing. >> senatis that the number one problem, as you see, is our unsustained -- i mean, our continued spending and our accumulation of the debt? >> yes, i would say it is. >> number one economic problem facing this country? >> over the longer term, certainly. certainly something to be addressed to get us back on the sustainable path. that can't be done over the next week. we need to look over the next five, ten, 15 years how we're going to get on a sustainable path. >> thank you. >> senator reed. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i assume you're familiar wit

-- i cannot believe we put you people in charge to do a job and your coming back saying, we have a prlemhould have been on top of it from the beginning. i think the president was right. if we need to clean house. -- we need to clean house. i think we need to clean out a whole government of all the slackers and the people that do not know what is going on. i feel like we have no fighting on the side of the people. guest: kevin, you make some good points. what this report does, it brings a lot of information together. it did not happen overnight. it is not going to be untangled overnight. but certainly,aving informatio in a very succinct manner, hopefully will be powerful enough to get some action. host: when you look at the fence and homeland security, the ovlap of responsibilities there, specifically in the homeland security area, you found there were duplicated efforts in securing the northern border. there were five departments, agencies and more than two dozen presidential appointees focused on by zero terrorism. -- by a terrorism. did at gao identified that as being a danger of a pot