exactly, so that the compan could deteine more about which accounts were not profitab or marginally pfitableh that new syem, he was able, and e other executives, to intify the accounts that they wanted to g rid of. and over theourse of a very few years, they shed eight million members. >> moyers: eig million policy lders? >> eight milon people-- men, women, and children, yes. me of them were shed by intention. some, i'm sure, probably wked cause the... or left for whatever othereason, but they inteionally had this program to purgehese accounts. eight million fewer peop were enrolledn aetna's plans. many othem undoubtedly joined the nks of the uninsured, because their employerhad been purged. >> moyers: swhat happened to tna's stock? >> went , and it has... >> moyers: and so diron's... >> and... >> moyers: ...mpensation, righ >> ron's cpensation and his stock on wall street. >> and so i thk, in the context of thinking abt a governmentlan, what we say is, let's identify t problem we're trying to lve. let's work collaborative with physicians, hospitals, a other healthare professionals, and make