have not been part of the budget discussions for couple of years, generally speaking through progressmatic area, i do see the revenue sources for the major grants that are funding those program areas. i don't think that we ever saw a single comprehensive list of everything all in one line and one page. also think that whatever we adopt in terms -- i think it's a great idea to see all the incoming revenue sources in one place. >> commissioner hunter: i request few different level of review. if we do incur more general funding, i would want to make sure that we understand how much work to take on. to your point earlier on general funding, i think it is the mandate of this commission to now carry for aggressive ask to the board of supervisors and the mayor for general fund. i do not think we'll be in this situation if we got general funding from the city itself. i don't think friends of would need to exist. prior director's and staff have taken up the gauntlet to move forward with the budget process. the commission does direct the department but we do serve the public. serving the public make sure