street artists tend to be, in our view, soul proprietorors, they're making a living at this. and the rules and management of it are around that issue. it talks to budgets, it talks to the space, and it talks to the fact that the artists themselves, the crafts people, have to prove that they are making the crafts that they sell. and that's all well and good, but as a program in the arts commission, it is just not given the same kind of attention that it deserves. to show how independent it is, even the legal expenses that were used to defend the street artists manager came from street artists fees. and it suggests that it puts a chilling effect on the voice of street artists who want to complain, who want to get their opinion made known to the commission. so it's an issue which certainly needs to be addressed and changed. the artists themselves, the street artists, are not a unified group. as anybody who has gone to meetings that street artists are present at, it's very political still. people have even told us that there's now a petition going around to try to have street art