i talked about the local ones, but there's national ones like propublica.y saw an insufficient in reporting at the local level, so they created something, and within the first year they won the pulitzer prize. there is not an inherent gap between print or web, good journalism can be done in any form. i really want to pause for a second on something i was unaware of which is state public affairs networks. these are basically c-spans on a state level. as spending by states has gone up, the number of state house reporters has gone down. there's 23 states with state c-spans and they vary in depth and quality, but they show the legislative hearings, the floor, and they do candidate debates and issue forums and things frankly that the local tv news would do for of, that some of the states are doing it. in only four cases are the states funded by the cable operateors in the way the cable industry funds c-span. in a quite a number of cases, they are funded by the state, which works okay, but i don't think it's the best model in the world to have the state funding t