they take children from birth to college, prosocial antibiotics at them, education, baby college, pre-k, try to get them to college. as you know, there is a bunch of pilot programs, some inspired by the president to try to copy that model around the country. that is what jeff does. he runs that. >> you have been his big supporter? >> i was on his pre-board, his pre-organization, and when he founded the harlem's children zone, i became the chairman. >> i understand what you are doing in terms of young people on campuses and looking to create a movement and same-sex marriage with the same legs. when you go to washington, what kind of response do you get there? whether it is finance committee, rand paul, paul ryan -- >> i went to washington in 1994. in 2011 i knew the demographics. i had very little success. i hadn't even gone to washington this time, because it was my view until the young people show they are going to turn on this issue the people in washington won't give a dam about this. >> he is on the left, and you are somewhere on the right, but on social issues are in the center. wh