. >> miss proudfoot, role model and why? >> i wanted to give two different examples. one of the first judges that i think did my first trial -- second trial -- judge terry boran and the reason i pick him as a role model, he used to be a hardcore prosecutor, number two in the office. for 30 years he was a prosecutor but when he hit the bench, he knew the difference between a judge and prosecutor. he was fair. he was kind and that was what everybody remembers about him, because he is just a very genuine and honest person and really understands the humanity of the people who appear in front of him. when i saw that as a young practicing attorney, i realized there's something very special about the way he approaches his job. it's not about looking like the smartest. it's not about winning. it's really about doing that service for people who come to the courts for help and so his kindness and his compassion really make him one of my role models. carol rosenham who was appointed to the bench in 1979 and she's a senior woman judge. she's a role model because she's that exampl