it may not deter pruden. you may simply want a show of force to demonstrate his capabilities, or he may want to take over ukraine covertly, it could collapse. but nato, these demands were directed at nato, not just ukraine. and nato stood up to those demands firmly. right now, i would say you can't say it has deterred. you can say it has overcome the challenge that putin has thrown up it -- thrown at it thus far. we are looking strong and we can see a path outward from this in which nato is strengthened in its mission as a result of mr. prudence -- mr. putin's aggression and buildup in ukraine. >> thank you. a great lead in to some of the follow-up questions i want to pick on. general breedlove, to you sir. gen. breedlove: -- i'm in total agreement with general clark, but are we deterring russia? in many ways we are not. if you look at hybrid war or what they call active measures, we are not deterring russia. russia is attacking us in these areas, in america, in our capital, every capital in europe and across

why did pruden start to move forces around and put these demands on the table now. this is not a departure from what he said in the past. what has changed that can account for russia's recent actions. the second part is pruden would say the u.s. he knew crane could nato into ukraine. ukraine doesn't actually join nato as a member, but nato military, facilities, arms advisors, go into ukraine is not acceptable to him. and that he has the power to command respect for this particular concern. to the extent that this is a major factor in reaching a negotiated solution, it would require restraints on u.s.-nato ukraine actions as the pice of reaching a deal. how do you see these? why now? will the united dates, nato and ukraine have to undertake some kind of constraints in order to find a solution? >> i just wanted to make one remark and then i will turn it over to you. part of the why now has to do with -- if we are talking about multiple factors, it has to do with the fact that p -- pruden feels his position has been validated. he can remain president under the constitu

what are pruden's intentions? >> i think there are at least four reasons that make an invasion rather improbable. if you look at the history of the tensions between russia and ukraine, the russian invasion is not a minute but it occurred eight years ago. ever since the kremlin hasn't system -- has insisted that russia is not a war party, from a russian perspective what has been going on, is a ukrainian civil war. this is my first point. it does not make sense from a moscow perspective to turn a covert war into an overt war. second, i would say the costs of an occupation would be way too high, maybe you remember the russian warlord who was a prominent figure in 2014 and was responsible for the establishment in the east of ukraine, said that for each soldier that you sent into you nine -- ukraine toccupy the territory, you would have to deploy 10 security people just to ensure the peaceful society. third point, the external cost would be way too high. nord stream 2 was on the agenda. finally, i think that there is n

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in the lesson that leonard pruden - from that time? listen...ruden would have drawn is it is externally unlikely and it still the case they will be any military response if he were to send some of 100,000 troops across the border into ukraine. a military response in ukraine, yes, but not a military response from europe or the us or nato, who did not when he annexed crimea, which was part of ukraine. and i don't think it would happen now. but it does not mean there will be no cost to him. there would be international condemnation and there will be a very heavy set of nomadic sanctions for the russia is not a happy doing well economically and this could really damage russians, especially if hints from the germans they might cancel the nordstream pipelines are not to be german policy. the other question you have to wonder is what they think of the day after their invasion of ukraine, their policy would be fulsome over the strategy and i think are they going to stay there? are they going to get bogged down in ukraine indefinitely? quite what the exi

about threats against russia, he promised that there would be sanctions the likes of which latimer pruden has never seen before. he confirmed that $600000000.00 worth of sophisticated military technology has been deployed to ukraine and other nato and nato countries in eastern europe. so, and that was all echoed by a number of republican lawmakers who said that biden should give prudent, bloody nose if he takes any action against ukraine. so we've got 2 sides here, both saying that they're looking for a diplomatic solution, but washington just seems to be disregarding all of russia's negotiating points with what is going on. what's the word from russia? while these accusations of an eminence, russian invasion of ukraine, they've been going around for months now and time and time again. moscow has said that it's just a fantasy. they've said that, you know, russia has the right to move its own troops around in its own territory. and that should not be a threat to anyone. we stress once again, russia is not going to attack in the practice of moving troops on our own soil is a sovereign right

pruden, that we take our responsibilities to nato very seriously. we are also working inside the international community to implement severe consequences for vladimir putin if you were to go into ukraine. those are largely economic consequences. i get where your question is, i am trying to be very clear. to get to barbara's question about what success looks like. we do not want to see another incursion into ukraine. we are using lots of levers to communicate why that would be a dad thing for russia to do. number 2, 9 insignificant number two, to make sure dado stays unified and our allies -- make sure nato stays unified. that is what this is about. >> is there a process by which this nato sponsor force is activated? is it a meeting, political decision, or is it a tactical know terry decision -- tactical military decision? >> it is a nadir decision. at -- nato decision. i assume it is one where all the allies are consulted and it is a political military thing. i think i better just refer you to nato on the specifics of it. about how they activate the

pruden to have him find the stability instead of an invasion of ukraine?is the distinction you believe will change vladimir putin's tone and rhetoric and action? amb. etienne: first, we must do this -- we must deter him from aggression by indicating aggression would have as a consequence serious consequences. then, as i said, we must also as the u.s. and europeans are doing , keep the channel open to discuss how we have the possibility, using instruments of diplomacy, to solve this crisis, also in view of a longer-term basis. to rebuild the instruments of europe's insecurity. 70 treaties have been abandoned. -- so many treaties have been abandoned. lisa: how much daylight is there between the french approach and the u.s. approach? amb. etienne: the french approach is not to deal with diplomacy only. it is also a clear indication on the european side that we will take the measures to answer any aggression. it is a dual approach where i do not see differences between the europeans and the americans. lisa: going forward, there is also a lot of tension in the

. >> kayleigh: we don't know what happens in closed doors with biden and pruden.ese two phone calls at the end of the year, hooton actually added 10,000 more troops to the border of ukraine and it doesn't seem is getting the message in public or private. >> shannon: and when there are public statements like this, this is the kind of thing that makes you think that the white house likes to be very controlled with the messaging and the rambling long questions and answer sessions. one false step this can be an international incident, so they were having a little mini heart attack, and he's out there on the road. he was just and key ever meeting with wilensky and ukrainian leaders there and he had just left there. and what kind of interesting conversation is not going to be? he's out there trying to work diplomacy around the globe, and the world will be watching as our secretary of state is out there probably doing his own cleanup, too, in these meetings. >> emily: scary times, we will see what happens. president biden openly questioning the legitimacy of the upcoming

. >> gillian: i would say the point about the olympics, she and pruden have been talking on these secures and announcing it to the world so they can get those photo ops and together. yesterday, tony blinken also said when he was talking to benji hall that russia might not be serious at all about the diplomacy it is engaged in with the u.s., at all. you can make what you want of that but the reality is that the u.s. intelligence committee doesn't know whether putin is serious and if he isn't, i would argue that engaging in cm diplomacy is not just a waste of time but potentially very dangerous, not just the ukrainians but for us here as well. it's not your standardized bureaucratic backdoor diplomacy, and as you point out it's happening on the world stage in full view of everybody. be one well and enemies that would love to take that as, note to self, how we deal with them. and i'm not interested in proving a negative, i'd like to have somebody prove to me that they are because they haven't shown that they are whatsoever. >> kayleigh: let me just underscore that about cm diplomacy. they l

this is really about pruden wanting to revisit the cold war, rewinding time. he wants to rewrite the rules of the european security architecture, and i think he really wants to instigate u.s. influence in easier. i think he thinks this is his time to push this objective. >> that was going to speak about the recent move of assisting cause extent, and that conflict going there. troops are now in belarus, back from the washington post, saying that the locations of the military sites, and they report that the russian troops and the belarusian troops will conduct joint exercises, of every 10 through 20, that's right. if you look at the map of where russian troops are station, they are basically around the sides of ukraine, obviously to the west, where russia is, and that is because they have annexed crimea, and they have that down in the south. they are also present in the south, and they would likely be southwest to the operation, and if they should, they would build as well. as you noted, they'd have forced it into belarus, which was a game changer, signaling the