but that's senator pryor's word. guess we'll just have to accept that. >> do you know he has any connection to the family other than through the prayer breakfast? when he described to you that idea of jesus didn't come to take sides, he came to take over, was he explaining that was something he learned through participation with the family beyond that prayer breakfast? >> yeah, absolutely. not the national prayer breakfast, a singular event but the weekly events, like the one bart stupak attended and went on to say through the family he learned that separation of church and state is actually something sort of exaggerated by seculars, that in fact america really has this almost christian identity. >> let me ask you about congressman stupak. he says he doesn't know anything about activities at c street, he just lives there, he's got no association with any group of any kind. what was his role in the family during the time that you were part of the organization? >> well, when i was living with the group, it was in fact

he wanted to make a bio pick about richard pryor. eddie murphy starring as richard pryor.o. brad pitt wanted to do an adaptation of "moneyball," they were about to do it. sony had spent $10 million already, were about to start shooting, they said, no, we don't want this. >> brad pitt and michael lewis, that movie can't get made? >> they're working on it again with another studio, a new director. but you see the struggle. generally, i think, three years ago, brad pitt could have walked into any studio and said, i want to make a movie about "the phone book," and they would be like, great, let's do it. now, not so much. >> chrystia, i'm a little bit surprised because i know entertainment has always been something we've flocked to, generally speaking, but especially during tough times. >> there is the general lipstick, cigarettes, and entertainment suggestion, that those sins, small pleasures do well in a recession. and one thing that's been good for hollywood, people are actually going and seeing movies. >> so they're going to the cinema, might not not be -- >> might not be b

richard pryor learning how hard it is to spend a huge amount of money in a short amount of time. my guess is it's happening in the obama administration with the stimulus money, only it's no laughing matter. the chief economist for president bush, edward, welcome to the program. i think you would like to see stimulus plan two, but only if it was all about tax cuts. am i right? >> well, i certainly believe that if we're going to do anything to get money into the economy, tax cuts is the way to go for a variety of reasons. first of all, i think low taxes are healthy for any economy. but the primary point, i think, that you made with your introduction is that it's very difficult to get money into the economy through any kind of spending program, primarily because it just take a long time to get these things up and running. stuart: do you think it should be rescinded? stimulus plan one, 90% of it is not yet spent. is there really a serious movement in place that would rescind that and start again with a tax-cutting program? >> i doubt it. i think that the stimulus package was primaril

and as justice pryor says adopted so that a sensitive laws and institutions can be changed or can be adapted to reflect social, economic and technological changes. pretty much everything. that is an open invitation to unlimited judicial policy making. now conservatives on either hand can escape their share of the blame. while they will recognize some constitutional constraints on federal authority in their not willing to do that when it comes to criminal law or balance and individual liberties with national security interests or regulations that affect prior moral and our social behavior and because of excess of the warren court and because of the liberal groups' ability to advance their agenda is the the court system conservatives have increasingly come too few cars with suspicion at times and our right, steve. their touchdown now is a judicial restraint by judicial restraint is an ambiguous concept but basically has come to mean is that courts should defer more accurately rubberstamp and decisions of the executive and legislative branch. conservatives are also reluctant to overturn

pryor: it's ofnlgt i get that sometimes myself. i rise to speak about the f y 2010 -- i would ask that the quorum call be dispensed with. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. pryor: i rise today to speak about the fy 2010 homeland security appropriations bill, a program within that, which is very important to my home state and also to many other states here in this great nation. first i want to thank the chairman and the ranking member and the staffs, and the staffs, as we know, do so much great work around here, for their leadership and forenight crafght such an important piece of legislation. i want to thank the chairman for taking my thoughts and considerations into mind when they drafted this legislation as well as the thoughts and considerations of many of my colleagues. this has truly been a bipartisan effort and shows that the senate can get good things done when we work together. the fund not guilty this bill covers a -- funding in this bill covers a wide range of activities from protecting our nation from terroris

he has worked for senator pete the minute she, republican of new mexico, democratic senator david pryor arkansas and republican senator nancy kassebaum from kansas. richard is on the phone from lancaster county, pennsylvania. good morning. democrats line. caller: good morning, winslow. you hit a lot of nails on the head already, and i hope somebody is taking it down like senator byrd of west virginia. i would like to make this brief comment, please, on the work -- he is done over the decades along with yourself. guest: i would polite and say i would like to answer a different question. talking about senator byrd, when donald rumsfeld have his hearings to be secretary of defense back in january 2001, senator byrd horrified him with the fact that the defense department was unable to track how it spends its own money. it wasn't just that the pentagon would flunk an audit, it was that the pentagon can't be audited. you flunk an audit when you track the money and find it has been misspent. when you can't be audited, you don't know what happened to the money did rumsfeld was horrified. the ra

, which is was not easy, and talk about the democratic sen terrorists, the mary landrieus and the pryorsns, do you get the sense they're getting impatient -- not impatient but uneasy about some big ideas on the president's agenda? >> they recognize there's a need to make these policies. we haven't done it for a long time. part of the reason, carl, we're in trouble in the united states -- i don't want to blame the recession on the political structure, but it probably did contribute to it in some way. we have not been willing to update and bring things alive as they should be. we have frozen ourselves in place. now we have all these five, six, seven issues that are huge. immigration could have been handled years ago. and could have probably been done more correctly than it ultimately will be done because we tend to abandon reasonableness and let it go to the extreme. wait 20 years until the questions become almost unsolvable and then we try to solve it. i think what we're trying to prove is that we've got to do these things on a regular basis. just in regulatory reform, you know, we knew a

that was made, which was about the importance that the promotion and sales part play in getting your pryor's straight -- party straight in p karl rove fought through a calendar that had such discipline to it that selling the president's policy -- that was everybody's job in the white house. all of us in the policy shop. while we certainly had areas of responsibility, it was an all hands on deck approach. i can't remember the very first week of the presidency -- i can't remember the first week of the presidency talking about events in and out of the white house, in and out of washington. one of the things i think we sometimes think about when we sell public policy is a public side of this, the strategic way to message of this out of washington in key states with key members. but the president does with his private time, a couple of the first thing that bush did when he came to office in the first week, was to have george miller and ted kennedy and john painter and judd gregg and the whole family over for the movie, to watch i can remember the name of it but it was about the cuban missile cris

he has worked for senator pete the minute she, republican of new mexico, democratic senator david pryor of arkansas and republican senator nancy kassebaum from kansas. richard is on the phone from lancaster county, pennsylvania. good morning. democrats line. caller: good morning, winslow. you hit a lot of nails on the head already, and i hope somebody is taking it down like senator byrd of west virginia. i would like to make this brief comment, please, on the work -- he is done over the decades along with yourself. guest: i would polite and say i would like to answer a different question. talking about senator byrd, when donald rumsfeld have his hearings to be secretary of defense back in january 2001, senator byrd horrified him with the fact that the defense department was unable to track how it spends its own money. it wasn't just that the pentagon would flunk an audit, it was that the pentagon can't be audited. you flunk an audit when you track the money and find it has been misspent. when you can't be audited, you don't know what happened to the money did rumsfeld was horrified. the

senator pryor in arkansas is another key target. senator specter, who is now a democrat and who has lobbied hard on the issue, so you have about ten senators who are really being intensely lobbied on this issue by the business community, and whether the a.s are effective or not, we will see when the vote comes down. it has been effective because already the unions have had to backtrack on key demands. it looks like in order to get a bill passed even with 60 democratic senators they have to compromise. i think the campaign has been very effective. host: the ad was put out by the employee freedom action committee. if you want to see more of ken silverstein's article, you can go on-line and find it at harpers.org. it is also hyperlinked on our website. the title is "labor's last stand, the corporate campaign to kill the employee free choice act." if you want to get involved in the conversation -- you can also send an e-mail or a message or twitter, like the one that we've got from avrwc and it is on the screen there. he writes "ken, th

new york, he worked for senator pete domenici, republican of new mexico, democratic senator, david pryor of arkansas and republican senator, nancy cast enobama. richard is on the phone from pennsylvania. democrats line. >> caller: good morning, winslow. >> guest: good morning. >> caller: you hit a lot of nails on the head, i hope somebody is taking it down, like senator byrd of west virginia. like to make this very brief comment, please on the work edward done over the decades along with yourself. >> guest: i'll be polite and say, i'd like to answer a different question. talking about senator byrd, when donald rumsfeld had his hearings to be secretary of defense back in january 2001, senator byrd horrified him with the fact that the defense department was unable to track how it spends its own money. it wasn't just that the pentagon would flung an audit. it's that the pentagon can't be audited. you flung and audit when you track the money and mon afind it was misspent. when you can't be audited you don't know what happened to the money. rumsfeld was horrified. literally trillions of dolla

to quote a totally unfair statement that chuck schumer made about now 11th circuit court judge bill pryork, and i know people here are going to disagree with me on this panel, but i think her record absolutely shouts out advocate and doesn't even whisper justice or justice or j. doesn't even whisper judge is the direct quote. so i feared that her -- that her speeches really indicate a crusading mentality. >> bob, my sense about it is whether she will be most challenged in the beginning is in oral argument. i think on the second circuit she has been one of the most active members of the bench, but as you know, the courts of appeal sit in panels of three. the supreme court sits always in the panel of nine and this particular collection of justices, even without justice soutor is what they call a hot bench. it will be difficult for judge sort mayor to become as actively involved unless she has sharpel elbows that i think would be tolerated on that bench. she's going to have to find ways to get questions, and i think the -- i think a lot of people underestimate the importance of an oral argum

to quote a totally unfair statement that chuck schumer made about now 11th circuit court judge bill pryor, i think, and i know people here are going to disagree with me on this panel, but i think her record absolutely shouts out advocate and doesn't even whisper justice or justice or j. doesn't even whisper judge is the direct >> bob, my sense of it is where she will be most challenged in the beginning is in oral argument. sheok is, i think on the second circuit, and she has been one of the most active members of the bench, but usually, as you know, and the court of appeals set in panels of three. the court of appeals sits in a court of 9 -- the supreme court sits in a panel of nine. even without justice osouter, it is what they call a very hot bench. it will be very difficult for justice sotomayor to become actively involved. she is going to have to find ways to get in her questions i think a lot of people underestimate the importance of oral argument in the dynamic of the court's work. if you know how the court functions procedurally, the oral argument is really the first time with whic

the chair appoints the following conferees: the clerk: senators nelson of nebraska, inouye, pryor, tester, murkowski and cochran. mr. cochran: mr. president, i suggest the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: quorum call: mr. coburn: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent the call of the quorum be dispensed. the presiding officer: without objection, so ordered. mr. coburn: i want to talk about what's going on in honduras. i have a lot of friends in honduras. and i have this peculiar worry that we find ourselves on the wrong side of freedom in the situation that's happening in honduras. as you read the press clips what we heard was there was a coup. that, in fact, is not true. the supreme court of honduras under the direction of the congress asked the military to intercede because the president of honduras had violated their own laws. yet we have our state department and our foreign policy siding with chavez, raul castro and the former president. there's no question that improvements have been made in the past in central and south america b

agriculture appropriations act signed by 16 senator senators as follows: rockefeller, udall of new mexico, pryor, kaufman, lincoln, conrad, hagan, begich, dorgan, baucus, nelson of nebraska, kohl, inouye, bennett of colorado, landrieu, and schumer. mr. reid: mr. president, i ask consent that the cloture vote on the substitute occur at 5:30 p.m. monday, august 3. if cloture is invoked, postcloture time be considered to have begun as if cloture had been invoked at 11:00 a.m. on monday morning. further, mr. president, i have a cloture motion at the desk on the bill itself. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: cloture motion: we, the undersigned senators, in accordance with the provisions of rule 22 of the standing rules of the senate, do hereby move to bring to a close debate on h.r. 299, the agriculture appropriations act for fiscal year 2010 signed by 17 senators as follows: mr. reid: i ask that reading of the names be waived. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reid: again, you renew my request, mr. president, that the cloture vote occur on the substitute a 5:30 on