had taken a gristle or a long vein and wrapped it around the thumb joint to create , to create this pseudo- thumb joint. when i talk to her, she wasn't working there. she was like in her 60s, and she said she was never going to go back because the doctor said it would be terrible. i kept calling her and she would not return my phonecalls, so i called another friend of mine kyle, who knew her and she said he is not calling her back -- not calling you back. she did not want to get in trouble, which i think kind of shows how few options there were for that work. or for any kind of work. she needed work, she needed to pay bills and chicken plant work was what she knew and they paid the best of anything around there. >> was there a difference in the kind of camaraderie from one group to another? where there was a different racial composition etc., did you notice a big difference? >> i don't know if it was so much their race, but i feel like the real big piece about why lettuce had so much better camaraderie was just the fact that we had a crew that work together constantly, and for two months,

it's the fact that we have seen the emerging again, the ugly face of basically a sort of claim that pseudo-sovereignty to a fight against timely interventions of the international community in many ways and from other at risk, including national actors. every time that their diplomatic interventions, or the u.n. intervene and say you cannot do it because discoursed against sound electoral practice and found international practice. and that is particularly the case when we are discussing fraud and we are discussing basically observer statements. and it's something that is not only happening in iraq, it happened in afghanistan in the last process. and it's extremely worrisome because we might have a reversion to previous ways of thinking. in terms of what lessons can be extracted from iraq to afghanistan, because afghanistan is an open process, obviously have to be very careful about what i say because i am still involved. but basically one of the biggest problems that we have seen emerge is a fiddling with the electoral rules as per the recent of president karzai. that degree has also the potential of

we have seen the emerging again the ugly face of basically a sort of pseudo sovereignty to fight against timely interventions of international community in many ways and from other actors including national actors every time there are diplomatic intervention or the u.n. intervenes to say you cannot do it because this goes against sound electoral practice and sound international practice. and that is particularly the case when we are discussing fraud and basically observer statements and it's something that is not only happening in iraq, it happened in afghanistan the last process and it's extremely worrisome because we might have a reversion to the previous ways of thinking. in terms of what lessons can be extracted from iraq to afghanistan because of tennessee and is an open process i have to be careful about what i say because i am still involved but basically one of the biggest problems that we have seen emerge is a feeling with electoral rules as the recent free of president karzai that degree has also the potential of the debaathification commissioned article 12 basically states can

than islam instead of saying islamist extremists, why not just say call extremists or why not say pseudo islam extremists? because if as you say the principles that these people follow are totally inconsistent with the koran, how do we then recognize them as being muslim i think it is beyond the pail of what a -- pale of a true muslim would be. the wiser question takes you a little bit beyond your own realm but how can religion in any way be an asset in conflict resolution instead of a divider? most the time we spend talking about, how, judaism, islam and christianity are different instead of talking about the common ground that they have as all of the book as, children of abraham? >> on your first question, i think, yes, we should differentiate. we're smart enough to differentiate between the difference in different terms of violent extremism. we have white supremacists, extremists in the united states who conduct terrorist attacks. as, tom parker from amnesty points out, only person to come close to building a dirty bomb was white. and, may have even set it off had it not been for the