get some anti psychotic medication. what do we know about the safety and long term affect of these drugs? i have often said children are not just little adults. they are different. what might work in an adult, you say may reduce the dosage. it doesn't always correlate. i don't want to practice medicine without a license but nonetheless, what do we know about the safety and long term effect of these kids and what requires further research and study? >> there is a real concern because they use anti psychotics in children has gone up markedly over the last decade and what we do know is children are more sensitive to the side effects, particularly the metabolic side-effects. that is a real concern because of a new drug abuse long term. there is an issue, a real issue about practice and improving the quality of practice in this regard. i should say some of this may be related to a reluctance of many clinicians to use anti-depressants which are somewhat safer but there are concerns about suicide and violent behavior. the curi

in children -- anti- psychotic medications in children. from what a year, a kid acts up, does something, get him a drug -- the use of anti-psychotic medications in children. from what i hear, when a kid acts up, does something, they get him a drug. what might work in an adult -- you say we will reduce the dosage. that sometimes does not always correlate. i do not want to practice medicine without a license, but unless we know that to be a fact, what do we know about the long-term safety of these kids, and what areas require further research and study? >> in fact, there is a real concern because the use of anti- psychotics in children has gone up markedly over the last decade. we know that children are more sensitive to the side effects, particularly the metabolic side effects, and that is a real concern because often these drugs are used long term. so there is an issue -- a real issue about practice and improving the quality of practice in this regard. i should say that some of this may be related to reluctance from many clinicians to use

is there a system that says a guy is on anti-depressants or anti-psychotic medication? >> this is a perfect opportunity for intelligent people of good will to sit down and craft safely legislation to deny all firearms to certain people -- criminals and dangerously mentally ill people, rather than trying to deny certain firearms to all people, including law-abiding citizens. >> jeanine: but, of course, carl, my concern is -- my concern is that -- if you do a fingerprint check, you can find out if someone is a dangerous individual or a felon. you don't know if they are crazy. that's part of the problem. pat caddell, does this bill have a chance of passing? >> not at all. the problem is, partly because this is an off-the-shelf, we hate guns, we are going to take them off proof, as opposed to what the country desperately wants, which is a solution on the background checks, which there are holes bigger than craters to get through and the problems of no checks at gun shows. the government of colorado, a democrat, "the wall street journal," he put a proposal -- they had the ma

medication. you stop, you are then psychotic, and you never restart your medication again. >> they are not going to. states do not have any money. they are so busy paying for pensions and prisons, there is no money for this. >> more on the debt ceiling debate. >> america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they already racked up. the financial well-being of the american people is not leveraged to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> "america has a debt problem and pillar of leadership. americans deserve better. i therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase american debt limit." senator barack obama, march 16, 2006. how about them apples? >> it is not good for obama. but he also -- he also knew that his boat was not vote to make a difference. >> come on. he said what he said. >> of course he said what he said. i am covering for him. i am just saying people do different things at different times. >> there has been a shift here, a deeply depressing column by david brooks on fr

stable for the program both pitied her because she was also on the same medication in fact go find all her friends or anti psychotics which she says give you the self-awareness of a slug and kill you'll say it's like. americans or carly the law or just a guinea pig trial in history mind altering drugs attests to just four weeks there's a long term effects of being evaluated on suspecting citizens who think that drugs have been checked then we see who dies who has seizures who has to form children who has epilepsy who has diseases down. the public is the clinical trial no drug has side effects. it's a very dangerous industry that has gone so far overboard in inventing fictitious diseases and drugging our children and our population that i consider to be engaged in primes against humanity one of the people we depend on our doctor is telling us on mainstream media the pope pills doctors and again have become accustom entitled to accept all sorts of gifts from the smallest to the largest and certainly to the public of seeing doctors being up to the caribbean for a weekend with a drug company paying does not make the pro

you pointed out that the shooter in newtown, connecticut was not psychotic, did not exhibit symptoms that a medical health care professional could have reasonably used in an evaluation that would somehow have prevented him from ever getting his hands on his mother's weapons. what can we reasonably expect from the mental health system in this arena? and what can we not reasonably expect? >> well, lawrence i think to answer that question it is important for viewers to understand that the vast majority of people with mental illness are not violent. in fact, people with mental illness contribute to only about 4% of violence in the united states. so all the focus on mentally ill people as the source of danger and violence is really a diversion and a distraction from the much larger problem in this country. which is that we have really homicide by firearms as a huge epidemic. 30,000 people every year die by firearms in the united states. 17,000 by the suicide, and 13,000 by homicide. the vast majority of people who die by homicide are not mentally ill. the vast majority are not mentally ill people. >> ga

the fact that he is allowing medication means he's functioning with some type of cohesion. he is not completely psychotics taking certain safety administrations. he killed people. he killed a bus driver so obviously he is incredibly dangerous. which is why attack c tactical operation is there because it could turn no something quiet to something that is explosive in a matter of seconds. this slowing down process is really positive. hopefully they can get him to come out. i am sure there are other things going on in the wood works if that is not a possibility right now. >> thank you for your expertise. the suspect is reportedly a loaner, a survivalist who quote does not trust the government. this is according to a source that spoke with nbc and who holds anti-american views. more on this as we get it. >> fox news extreme weather alert in a deadly outbreak of tornadoes. crews are assessing the damage. you can see the devastation for yourselves in georgia where a series of twisters swept through. homes and buildings completely demolished as people who live there are now trying to clean up. they just filed t

case the fda has approved the use of two different and a psychotic drugs to help control that kind of behavior. but for the most part, the medications that are approved for use in children and the ones that show the greatest efficacy are in other class is particularly for children who have, for instance attention deficit hyperactivity disorder where the fiber stimulants have have been shown over and over again the last few decades to be rather high efficacy but hi sees the as well paid and we know from long-term studies that that is helpful. so i wouldn't say that in any of these cases that says all whole answer but it's often helpful as part of the answer. there are lots of other kinds of interventions that are being developed and some that still need to be developed that may be far more effective beyond medication. so this is just a part of the story. >> thank you very much. my time is up. >> i was going to say from a population base point of view there are interventions not for people that have been identified with an issue but in classrooms, for example, a program that we support called the good behavior game that is the remarka