it has been successful in using psyops.measure what is motivating people and what might help persuade people from being radicalized. some of those have been effective, but some are the dirty tricks that are the lure of campaign bios and are questionable in u.s. politics. oliver: it seems like their role in the u.s. election was to work with the trump campaign and figure out where they needed to place their energies. that seems to some degree a passive role, but as you point out, they have an active role in these other elections and have gone beyond that where they have begun assessing potential terrorists. talk to us about their clients and who pays them for their services. >> they have had a lot of success in working for the u.s. state department. they just gave them a contract to measure potentially radicalized youth in different countries where they are afraid of isis getting a hold of people. they are doing interviews, assessing social media feeds and seeing what issues could make someone go towards isis or find a less