most children won't tell their parents they've been traumatized or experiencing symptoms of ptsd. >> we can talk about therapy in a second because one thing you said to before you get on air, before you go to a therapist, move. >> the best example for recent times is the kids who liveded in new orleans, at lot of them developed ptsd symptoms after hurricane katrina but you wouldn't start treating those kids before the floodwaters receded or before those kids had homes to live in again. so the paramount principle is first making sure they feel safe. >> the next logical question is that old joke on psychiatrists. how many psychiatrists does it take to a chinch a light bulb, but the child wants to have to change. what makes you think the child is going to want to go through the change necessary to get past so as not to become violence. that's a great question and dovetails with the previous speaker, the columnist from chicago. children's work is to grow up, to be strong, effective and competent. often they use role models, they need credible role models to know how they're going to grow

. >> and ptsd generates fear, you feel like you're the only one and then you feel guilty because you're feeling this way. >> he's going to wonder why this guy tight and tense on my back. >> one guy today hasn't been out of his house in three years. >> reporter: ken and mike are v.a. counselors. >> they have a common bond, a warrior code and back together again pulling them out of isolation. >> they give tools to use, because anger is a natural emotion. it's what you do with that anger when you feel it coming on. >> you're ready to go. >> you can't go through it alone. it will eat you up. >> brian turner is a federal marshall who has done multiple tours in iraq. >> the stuff we saw over tere on a daily basis, human beings shouldn't see stuff like that but we have to see stuff like that because it comes with the job. the quicker you can get a handle on it and reintegrate back into civilian life, and for a lot of us i'm still in the reserved so i have to get ready fork the next one too. >> reporter: and will is with the wounded warrior project. >> one of the most debilitating aspects of pt

can the minister say how much we have spent on ptsd? y clinical awareness of it continue to flat line and why there is no mental health screening program for our returning veterans? >> i don't accept there is no mental health screening here for our returning veterans but i think it's important to recognize that kings have undertaken a much research and the americans have as well and one thing that does indicate is the mental health screening three deployment is not effective. actually perhaps cause more problems than solve a natural population a talk about and that goes right back to the second world war. in terms of ptsd, it is a small number that have presented the end of the numbers represented the u.s.. there are some question marks about the way in which the operational tempo of the united states is different to ours and i know both our u.s. counterparts and certain general working together to the comparative data. just recently teams over from the u.s. to look at the ways in which we are treating mental health and the armed forces

but ptsd it never unfortunately goes back to just, we just pushed it in the back of our mind and so far i have tried so many things to teach my body that experience is over. you can sleep more than three hours or two hours but i think if the body has its own mind and it does not want to let go. that is what concerns me a great deal about soldiers coming back from iraq because i think just going to reflect on society, we're going to see and hear a lot of horrible stories and that is a time when the four of our iraq will reach the shore of united states. unless we do something about it now it will be here to face of so many years to come. >> of like to thank everybody for coming out tonight. can we think wafaa bilal one more time? [applause] "shoot an iraqi" is for sale in the bookstore at the other end of the busboys and poets come over here for the signing i will have a table set up to do the signing and we can wind up on this side of the room. thank you again. have a great evening. >> thank you for being patient and a great audience. [applause] wafaa bilal born in iraq and lived there

then he came home and also started showing signs of ptsd.abusing his pain pills for his war wounds in order to treat his ptsd symptoms, he was drinking too much, violent, nightmares. his mother called the sergeant, saying, this kid needs counseling and unfortunately the army still doesn't have a policy that would require that. so they said, look, s there's nothing we can do. eight months after she called is when he tortured and shot this drug dealer in colorado springs. >> and you write and put it into perspective here in your article, did the infantry turn some men into killers or did killers seek out the infantry, did the army let in criminals or did fort carson fail to take care of soldiers or did soldiers fail to take advantage of care offered? it looked like time after time that members of the army there, didn't encourage counseling or made fun of individuals that were suffering from depression or from ptsd. and there was this stigma that reigned on this base. >> absolutely. fort carson's commanding general release a report where he loo

and ptsd. the defense center on excellence for psychological health and traumatic brain injury under the command of brigadier general sutton is conducting a study into hyperbaric therapy for the treatment of t.b.i. and it is scheduled to be delivered with those results on or about december of 2010. i have highly encouraged my colleagues to join me over the last few months in engaging with general sutton and the department of defense on this promising new application of hyperbarrack therapy -- hyperbaric therapy. my amendment today is very simple. it asks for the v.a. to submit a report on their current and planned use of hyperbaric oxygen therapy and by knowing today how it's used, we can have a greater understanding of how we can assist our injured veterans tomorrow. so we're asking, how the v.a. uses it today, where those facilities are, so that we can be prepared to work when the department of defense has their answer available soon to where we then coincide that with the veterans who are ho

you have the injuries, the ptsd issues and suicide rate go up. do you believe as the man who once led or u military that the government of the united states and the people of the united states understand the 10-20-year 30 year commitment. >> i don't think they were sa saysive enough to the fact that the soldiers coming back, youngsters who would have died during an earlier war are not going to require just hospital care and a little bit of transition but they're going to require life-long care. at the memorial day concert on the lawn, we celebrated one of these soldiers who was grievous injured in the head and he's going to require custodial care from his mom and sister for the rest of his life and the rest of their lives, and i'm not sure we ever prepared ourselves for that kind of intense demand on our system. it's going to require the government, including veteran's administration, the pentagon. but the community is going to have to step forward as well. because they're going to be living in a community as well. >> we saw a critical deadline i

there are some studies outs there that suggest that people with ptsd are more likely to commit crimes. the idea behind the veterans court is give softer approach of criminal just toys the veterve -- justice approach to veterans and not incourse incarcerate th rehabilitate them. several states are considering the idea of veteran court. the other idea is if they're not incarcerate and it frees up space in jails, we know jails all around the country are overcrowded. it costs less and saves state money because they don't have to pay for the extra inmate. >> eric: sounds like to're making a special effort to veterans so why would critics be critical of this? >> reporter: it makes sense. the aclu specifically in in evidence -- specifically in nevada says it creates two-tier system and has preferential treatment. they say this country is about one justice for all, so the aclu is blasting this. other municipalities are going forth with it despite criticism. we report, and, of course, you decide. >> eric: casey stegall live in los angeles. thank you. >> jamie: there is new information for you

they say he had ptsd item off the has the disorder because he never missed one day of work and he never became so angry she could not function so i would say posttraumatic stress and he had flashbacks but i know somebody wiser to leave their husbands have had flashbacks that we don't talk about it but to go public makes them feel folderol although this is a guy who was a published academic, intellectual, can do pushups on his fingertips but though one flashback out there and makes him vulnerable because soldiers are not used to letting people know behind the game base that you are to be ready for anything. honestly he hates the strip club scenes. but you were the ku will guide they did not discovered something new or modified. i don't know of most men would know where to look if they went with their wife and it spoke well of him and a fairly typical response. what is startling to me is this is my second memoir and the sheer volume and intensity of the response from the other wives is blowing away. i have women that are in tears because it is tough but i think about the because army cult

in discipline and, much coming back without any social safety net, they are going to have a lot of ptsd and not a lot of people looking for them and those people worry me. thank you. >> how much time? >> we are not going to get to everybody in line, so lets people the kaptur but one question. >> want crags how can that be? this may not even be in your area of interest, but traveled warlords, tribal leaders. their role and the possible conflict between warlord tribal leaders and the central government and in a can of community based development both in iraq and then transferring over to afghanistan pakistan. >> okay, i actually think this is something you're going to see petraeus as are doing in afghanistan as he did in iraq. reaching out and by the way petraeus had a ph.d. dissertation in princeton on the vietnam war and the use of force how america might have done things the release so he has thought about this. one thing you can do is not just try to do everything to the central government which places enormous burden on people who are just getting the government up and running and go

they can provide emotional support for these soldiers, many of whom suffer from ptsd. is trained to pick up items that he cannot. there is another story of a returning veteran who had a seizure, and his do tell, and started barking and barking until someone else came over. megyn: it is amazing what they can do. how big is the need for these dogs? >> pretty big, according to everyone involved. there is one veteran in florida that we met up with. one company called vet dogs depend on donations. some lawmakers are starting to bring up this idea and appropriate a bit of money for this. training can cost a bit of money. but according to the betterment to have them say that they are just absolutely indispensable. megyn: it is great to see them doing their best to help our soldiers in need who are too often forgotten. if people want to help the organization, what can they do? >> they can certainly contact vet dogs. if congress appropriated this money, hundreds and hundreds of veterans could be given a dog. many times, dogs will accompany the veterans at walter reed during the

sometimes they can even wake them up from nightmares, in the case of ptsdç victims.tty big expense. >> this is the first bill that al franken is introducing. it will be allocating some federal dollars to make these dogs available. the veteran was over germany in his last mission, and he was shot down. he survived and was able to come back to the states, and a few years ago, he realized that veterans were not getting enough help. he needed people to help pay for these dogs. martha: you look at all the things the government is spending on, it seems like this is something that they should be doing. this is sort of required for those people who need to get their lives back on track. it is an inspiring story. çgreat work that he is doing. it is strange to have here in the studio. maybe we need a fan. can we make it look like he is in miami? trying to provide a natural environment. you will be back on the beach tomorrow. çharris: watch out for those waterspouts. martha: wait until you see these monster waves hitting the beach. look at them. look how small the people are.

she has ptsd. i mean, the victim herself has some profile that seems sort of vulnerable, that would make her vulnerable to a predator like this woman. so this is very case specific. i don't think she was out looking to see who can i kill. i think she saw a vulnerable -- she saw her as prey in this way and somebody who didn't deserve to have another child. >> okay. laura, how long have they known each other? were they friends? what do we know about the relationship between darlene haynes and julie corey? >> we know that they were neighbors. they lived in the same apartment building for a period of time. but there's no indication that they were good friends. more like acquaintances who lived in real close proximity. and when you live in close proximity you tend to be involved in a certain level in the lives of the people around you. but there's no indication that they were buddies. >> there was a relationship. and as we look at this, cooper-s that -- so she sees her as prey and -- allegedly. we'll sa

they were suffering from ptsd. i mean, there were a lot of serious mental health concerns, and their leaders, their commanding officers, knew about it. so, what are you doing now, general, to make sure that these men and women that are getting ready to go off to these wars and also come back, don't stand accused of rape and murder and suicide? >> well, we've done several things. we have several programs in our army. army-level programs as things that woulder starting at ft. carson to make sure we do mental toughness and resiliency training prior to departure and when they get back. we also do something called reintegration plus. we have mobile behavioral health teams that go right down to the units to make it easier for soldiers to have access to care. we also have family life consultants and we serve additional resources for the family life consultants when they get back. so the soldiers can feel comfortable going forward and getting help. we tell them it's a sign of strength and not weakness that go forward to ge

now we see is this study veterans who suffer from ptsd may be more likely to get alzheimer's.our take on that. >> i think it's a significant study and looked at a group of00,000 veterans diagnosed with that disorder versus a group of 125,000 veterans who had not been diagnosed and over a seven-year period as they followed them the ones who had the stress disorder, diagnosed with it, had a 1.8 increase in diagnosis i should say for alzheimer's, almost a twofold increase so one more reason why we need to identify these veterans and treat them in many ways now also to help prevent alzheimer's. >> dr. tim, thank you so much. you're right. an absolute reason to have them get more medical attention earlier on. appreciate you being with us here this morning. >>> obviously you want to get more information on this, alzheimer's important to people. go to abcnews.com. you'll see additional resources right there. 46 minutes past the hour. >>> when we come back, a different kind of study can foinetg urterur wording b effective as a painkiller? there's science behind it. we'll take you to t

study by the rand corporation, found that roughly 1/5 of veterans, 20%, involved in combat, experience ptsd post-traumatic stress disorder when they return home. proponents of veterans courts say that ailment makes them more likely to commit crimes but opponents argue the concept sets up a two-tier system of justice. >> if you have for example two people who are arrested for, say public drunkenness, sharing a bottle and getting drunk, one is a veteran and that person goes to this court and the other is not a veteran and goes to that court and that is not really the way we do things here. we have one system of justice, for all. >> reporter: now, much of the cost to set up the court will be funded through federal tax dollars and 20 other legal systems around the country are also considering a very similar plan. julie? >> julie: all right, casey steegel, thank you very much. kelly? >> kelly: hi above the earth, the crew aboard shuttle endeavour working with cutting-edge robotic technology and what they may really need now, a plunger. we'll explain, later! aspercreme heat gel. powerful medicine

by the pentagon in 2004, about one in six veterans of the wars in iraq and afghanistan suffer from ptsd never seek help. >> i just wanted to get out of the army and i figured all my problems would go away once i got out of the service. >> reporter: but when he and his brigade were stock lost it was a breaking point. >> i was going to deploy to iraq the same week that i was supposed to get out of the army. >> it got to the point where you thought you would be better off dead than to continue on. >> i chose to try and take my fate into my own hands and i tried to commit suicide. i took enough percocet to probably kill someone two or three times my size and i drank my usual poison of a bottle of vodka. i didn't imagine it being pape fobl for me to survive. >> reporter: but chris goldsmith did survive. his official diagnosis of post dramatic stress disorder at a va hospital came months after he was discharged. >> right now, i'm doing a lot better. i've been through a lot of therapy and i've been surrounding myself with other veterans who are going through the same thing. sglis says the most

rand corporation found that roughly one fifth of veterans involved in combat, about 20% experience ptsd or post traumatic stress order when they return home. proponents of veterans court say the ailment makes them more likely to commit crimes but opponents argue the concept sets up a two tiered system of justice. >> you have, for example, two people who were arrested for, say, public drunkenness, sharing a bottle and getting drunk. one is a veteran and goes to this court and the other is not a veteran and goes to that court. that is not the way we do things here. we have one system of justice for all. >> many of the cost to set up the court comes through the form of federal grants. by the way, 20 other legal systems around the country are considering a similar plan. shannon? >> shannon: interesting, thank you, casey. we want to tell you about a new feature and fox news.com called live shots. a lous crews and reporters to file breaking news and updates directly to their own blogs on the website. if you want to know more about a story, check it out at fox news.com/liveshots. >>> the first

in terms of ptsd, it is a small number that present.erms of 9 numbers that present inspect u.s., there are question marks about the way the operational temper is different in the u.s. from ours and the surgeon general and counterpart are looking at the issue. just recently a team was over from the u.s. to look at the way we're treating mental health in the armed forces in our veterans community. >> speaker, the government is committed to the current nuclear deterrent. good sprog being made in completing the actions set out in the 2006 white paper, the future of the u.k.'s nuclear deterrent. >> but tony blair told this house in december 2006 that britain could maintain its minimum strategic deterrent whiles. reducing from 200 to 160 war heads. less than three years later the current prime minister seems to be offering to reduce this figure below 6 -- 160 warheads. how can he do this while still maintaining a minimum level of deterrence. >> the prime minister also made it very clear he was committed to main taping the nuclear deterrent. w

these are two of the most important issues we deal with, making sure we deal with the ptsd issues which significant problem and also make sure we have the services available to provide the large number of wounded veterans coming back from our wars in iraq and afghanistan. i was pleased to see the committee included a provision to provide advance budget authority for fiscal year 2011 for related accounts. this is a good step to ensure that they receive a timely stream of funding without subjecting it to the delay this is a can arise due to the larger budget debates. i urge my colleagues to support the passage of the bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. sessions: we have a lot of member of the republican conference who want to come down and speak about this bill, but we're joined today by the gentleman, dr. beginning ree, i'd like to yield two minutes to the gentleman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia is recognized for two minutes. mr. gingrey: i thank the gentleman for yielding and i stand to strongly oppose this rule on military construction an

particular, tricare providers aren't reimbursed for providing case management services for soldiers with ptsd and traumatic brain injury, known as t.b.i. if you help these soldiers stay in treatment, if you make sure they get to their medical appointments and generally coordinate their care, you end up reducing costs and you help those soldiers and their families that are facing these challenges with mental health function in their communities. so this amendment, mr. president, directs the defense secretary to assess the efficacy and the cost of case management services for those with serious mental health problems. my hope is that the study will show the benefits of case management and then help further the d.o.d. consider covering this important service under tricare. now, mr. president, if i might, let me turn to the broader legislation because it includes many provisions that don't directly relate to colorado. the bill supports our service members and keeps americans safe. it authorizes $679 billion for defense programs with $129 billion going to our ongoing operations in afghanistan and