public markets aren't needed. >> you know, it's a fair point. the way that we see things at y commrly stages of the company is it can take eight to ten years for an investment we make to eventually go public. so, yes, there are definitely cycles you see on the public markets. and this year's ipo market looks okay, but we try not to think too closely. and if we overcorrect either on the upside or downside because of what's happening in the public markets, we're going to make mistakes in our investments. and i think a lot of venture capitalists feel the same way. they try to invest on what they think would be good businesses that could be very, very big and to not overcorrect on what the markets are doing. that doesn't hold for the latest stage investors. you'll notice that late-stage venture capitalist invest differently, hedge funds invest differently and more tied to ipo. at the early stage we try not to pay too much attention. >> in the beginning you named sectors attracting a lot of attention right now, health care, housing, when do we start seeing the fruits of those companies