expert on international security of the democratic initiative foundation, candidate of political sciences, members of the public council of industrial industry of ukraine was in touch with us, and now we are attaching this conversation with mr. viktor shlinchak, head of the board of the institute of world politician and editor-in-chief of the central committee, mr. victor , we welcome you, we are expecting the start of the press conference of the us president joe biden every minute, if we interrupt the conversation with you but then we will ask you to join in, the broadcast has already started from the hall where joe biden is supposed to be, so stay with us, it's me and the audience , and i'm telling you too well, but so far there is no biden, let's take the opportunity, actually you are a person who, er, understands communications, er- because you are a person from the world of media, the day before, there was information that the russians had occupied bakhmut, putin had already boasted there , he said that he would give out awards for all this, and they were waiting for volodymyr zelenskyi, and it is clear that foreign ukrainian journalists i don't k