how hard the public health association a public health offices are having to work. because there are so many new cases of infections we can no longer trace the origin of the infections and this means that we cannot contain the infections and this is why it is so important that we have set the course for combat in the pandemic in the future this is true for example when it comes to the protective equipment in the. spring we were really struggling we had to import p.p.a. but now we have got a national production lines for personal protective equipment that makes it possible for us to fulfill our own needs here to a large extent then our testing strategy has been adapted to the epidemic a logical state with the anti janus fast tests we are entering a new chapter test and this means that in senior citizens homes and nursing care homes we can test whether or not a visitor is infectious or not now when it comes to preventive tests. we will be a lot faster and much more efficient in generating results actually the pandemic is a major challenge for us as well and we see in

hospital in green bay, wisconsin, and lena tucker is the executive director for the iowa public health association. great to have both of you with us this morning. dr. casey, i want to start with you because of what's happening in wisconsin. we can put up a couple of graphs, the hospitalization there has spiked in the past few weeks. so give us a status report of what's happening at the hospitals and why we're seeing this -- i mean, what looks like this mt. everest-type curve. >> good morning, thank you for having me. so we are facing a crisis in our community in terms of health care over the course of the past three weeks we have seen an alarming spike in covid patients who require admission. it's a very steep limb on this curve. what that has done is placed entire wards full of covid patients on top of all the other patients we have to take care of under normal circumstances hospital capacity is typically 70% to 80%. so you throw on top of that an entire ward of patients with covid-19 it stretches us to the limit. >> i was reading, dr. casey, that you've been working at hospitals where they are

i don't care she'll a research associate at the school of public health imperial college london thank you for your time thank you very much. a smoking gun or a political flung. or political democrats that senators are calling on the f.b.i. not to investigate the business activities of joe biden and his son they insist it will harm american democracy and if the smear campaign by donald trump team with more. who can forget the russia gate hysterics and the demand from the us senate minority leader chuck schumer that the f.b.i. investigate allegations against trump regarding collusion that's a serious issue and needs a thorough thorough investigation we know director komi was leading an investigation and whether the trump campaign colluded with the russians a serious offense where those investigations getting too close to home for the president the dismissal of director komi establishes a very troubling pattern well it turns out that senator chuck schumer is far less interested in looking into the shady dealings of the biden family in ukraine surprise surprise. we therefore urge you to r

public health expert. he's a radiologist associated with a conservative think tank? >> that's right. you have dr. birx and dr. fauci with epidemiological and you have the other doctors that run the respective agencies. dr. atlas does have a medical degree but he doesn't have the infectious disease or public health background. >> one thing that really leaped out at me is there's $9 billion sitting in a government account unspent for national testing. birx and fauci have urged the government to use unspent testing which amounts to 9 billion so anyone who needs can get a test. atlas who is opposed to surveillance testing has repeatedly quashed these. he says they don't need to get tested. he's stopping the government from spending money it already has to test. >> that's right. birx and fauci have been pushing to dramatically ramp up testing especially as they predict a devastating winter. deaths could have 400,000 a winter. we saw it go back up to 40,000. dr. birx and dr. fauci say anybody who wants a test should be able to get it. there are some of the at-home hests distributed. you can dramaticall

public health. james bloomenstock senior vice president for pandemic response and recovery of the association of state territorial health officials which is the organization that represents more than 100,000 public health professionals across the country. james, thank you for being with us. and i just want to get your reaction when you hear this cdc study saying that there have been almost 300,000 excess deaths from coronavirus. or, really, two-thirds of those attributed to covid-19. what your reaction? >> hi, brianna. the data speaks for themselves. clearly, we are seeing a serious uptick in cases across the country right now. as you talk about the demographics and populations that are being represented in the data you just shared, you know, i think we can attribute the increase in cases really to two main factors. first, the change of seasons. with the fall coming and colder weather, more people will be recreating and socializing indoors really increasing risk of exposure. the second point, a harsh reality but we have to recognize it, is the fact that we as a society are dealing with pandemic fatigu

public health expert. he's a radiologist. associated with a conservative think tank. >> that's right. you have birx and fauci who have infectious disease background. and of course the other doctors on the task force who run respective agencies. dr. atlas has a medical degree. he doesn't have the infectious disease or public health background. >> one thing that really there's a policy fight. this blows peoples mind. $9 billion in a government account. unspent for national testing. congress allocated it for testing. anyone who needs can get a test. atlas who is posed to testing has quashed proposals and argued young and healthy people do not need to get tested. he is stopping the government from spending money it already has to test. >> birx and dr. fauci have been pushing hard for weeks to ramp up testing. especially as experts predict a devastating winter. deaths could reach 400,000. we saw the infx rate go back up to 70,000 on friday. dr. fauci said anyone who wants a test should be able to get it. and have results returned quickly. some of the at home test kits. those should be dist

there were serious public health concerns on tuesday on that debate stage when people were talking about the trump associates not wearing masks. they were undermining the public health experts, touting a vaccine that will be ready within weeks, he said. that's not science, and now the president trump of t president of the united states has become one of handful of world leaders who's contracted the infection. what does that add up to? >> this is an incredible moment. you and i have talked a lot about it, ali. when you think about the interviews, recordings that bob woodward conducted with the president where the president said this was a horrible pandemic and there was going to be a lot of trouble. then he would talk about everything was under control and so on. the problem now is his words are coming back to haunt him in very strange ways and they're in cont cont contradistinction to his campaign speeches. we wish the president well. but he's created a massive problem that has resulted in 208,000 deaths in the united states. half of them were probably preventible if we've been getting the straight scoop and

hopkins university assistant professor of emergency medicine and the associated johns hopkins bloomberg public school -- school of public healthsupported by michael r. bloomberg who is the founder of the parent company of the bloomberg network. as lauren sauer alluded to, echo did by fda commissioner stephen hahn, the halt in eli lilly's antibody trial as well as other vaccine trials is all about process and safety. it is not about politics. in an interview on bloomberg, this is what the commissioner had to say. this is from the fda's perspective, not a politicized process. of course we are concerned the public feels this may be politicized, but i want to reassure the public that it is not. we are here to talk about the developing vaccines is dr. jeremy faust, emergency medicine physician at goodman and women's hospital. he was part of a group of scientists who did report the news about eli lilly's vaccine treatment paused. think you very much for being with us. let's start right there. whether there is a general understanding about the complexity and the sensitivity trials,nt illness and in the general public, and whether tha

health care systems across the state. for more on that note we welcome to the broadcast an associate professor at the school of medicine and public health at the university of wisconsin madison. he's also the chief quality officer there and continues to practice as an er doc flying with the university hospital's critical care transport program. doctor, thank you for coming on. what's the situation in your state and in your hospital? >> brian, i wish we had better news but things are a bit dire in wisconsin right now. we keep seeing record growth of cases, increases of hospitalizations, and the gold standard metric. we're seeing more deaths. more people are dying in wisconsin of covid-19. our hospitals are struggling to keep up right now. >> i know you're a medical guest and not a political guest, but what does it do to your heart to know that when the president travels and lands in a state like wisconsin that is almost by definition, almost by nature a super spreader event. we know that because we can tell the cases after the fact when he takes off and goes to washington and a few days transpire. >> you know, it's really frustrat

public health as well. there has been some scenarios around the cost of the lockdown in the deaths associated with that, atthat number is estimated to be slightly higher than the number of deaths so far. absolutely tragic in an important reminder we have a lot of good things here. it's disappointing to say the scenarios for a v—shaped recovery, very sharp economic retraction that we experience in the spring and summer followed by very fast rebound feels further and further away now that we have more restrictions coming in and growth artie stalled in august. a lot of economy starting to worry that this is not going to be a sharp v but that this is not going to be a sharp vbuta that this is not going to be a sharp v but a lackluster recovery. he may not get back to this until 2022. nothing even factoring in other national lockdown can we can have another economic retraction. it's a stark reminder what you are saying. looking at the possibility of a tougher lockdown measure going across, they describe the three strictest, tier three restrictions. all getting used to these tier systems. like them of the northw

public health. he was previously the director of harvard university's global health institute. we're also joined by reuters white hohouse correspondent jeff mason, the former president off the whwhite house correspondents association we welcome you both to democracy now! jeff mason, let's begin with you. you are covering joe biden. you were the white house correspondent president in the beginning of trump's. can you talk about, would we know almost any of this on thursday if it had not been a reporter at bloomberg news reported that hope hicks had tested posositive for covid-19?? great questioion. wewe would not havave known it n we did. it ended up beingng confirmed by otheher news organanizations, inclcluding my own. that l led to a trickle of news about essentially president trump. he came on fox news news later that evening and also confirm that hope had gotten sick. and at that time,e, said he had been tested and also sort of gave an indication he wasn't sure if hehe had it and whetethe would need to go into quarantine. it is hard in retrospect to know what -- if he still would have gone on fox in that case. eventually, they would've had to say he had the disease. outfor sure, it started from good reporting f

there are -- there were serious public health concerns on tuesday on that debate stage when people were talking about the trump associates and family who were not wearing their masks in concert with the things donald trump was saying on that stage that were undermining his public health experts, touting a vaccine that will be ready within weeks, he said. that's not science. and now the president of the united states has become one of a handful of world leaders who have contracted this infection. what does it add up to for you? >> so this is an incredible moment, ali. we have been talking about this a lot, you and i. and if you think about -- i'm thinking about the recordings -- the interviews that bob woodward conducted where the president personally and privately was telling woodward that this was a horrible situation we're in, the pandemic was deadly and there's going to be a lot of trouble. in his public-facing messages being the exact opposite. you know that story. the problem is that his words are coming back to haunt him in very strange ways and are really now in distinction to what his campaign messages are. so he

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. >> reporter: in august the california hospital association wrote this letter to the department of public healthing for patients to be released in nursing homes to free up bed space. >> hospitals have strong economic incentives to use those things for things like elective surgeries, which can make them a lot more money. business interests are making a lot of the public health decisions, which we are seeing play out so disastrously all around us. the state and santa clara county refused on camera interviews. but the california department of health urged us guild nursing facilities to be prepared to receive covid-19 patients. nursing home families were given no choice in that little communication. she is worried her husband, who is already ill, could soon contract on the virus. >> every single person that has a human right, don't get me started on this, for their families to be told exactly what's going on and how their family is doing. i've gotten nothing of that, so i'm angry. i'm very angry. an and it's that pain that has brought these families together, sharing stories of then and now. >> i st

there are -- there were serious public health concerns on tuesday on that debate stage when people were talking about the trump associates and family who were not wearing their masks in concert with the things donald trump was saying on that stage that were undermining his public health experts, touting a vaccine that will be ready within weeks, he said. that's not science. and now the president of the united states has become one of a handful of world leaders who have contracted this infection. what does it add up to for you? >> so this is an incredible moment, ali. we have been talking about this a lot, you and i. and if you think about -- i'm thinking about the recordings -- the interviews that bob woodward conducted where the president personally and privately was telling woodward that this was a horrible situation we're in, the pandemic was deadly and there's going to be a lot of trouble. in his public-facing messages being the exact opposite. you know that story. the problem is that his words are coming back to haunt him in very strange ways and are really now in distinction to what his campaign messages are. so he

$3.8 trillion in spending both to fight the pandemic, the public health challenge and as well as deal with the economic consequences associated with it. my heart goes out to those people who through no fault of their own find themselves without a paycheck locked down perhaps with somebody who is abusing them, anxious about where their next meal is going to come the. i have actually done something about it by supporting this bipartisan $3.8 trillion expenditure. we need to do more. i hope the white house and speaker pelosi will continue to negotiate. but what i don't understand is m.j.'s -- the chief sponsor for her candidacy chuck schumer single handedly blocked $5 billion for spending that would have made sure a vaccine would have been available at the end of the year. >> i'm going to come back on he stimulus checks in a moment michael: i need -- hip i need to address that. he used my name. it is frustrating. it must be so frustrating for ou not to run against schumer. he is running against m.j. hegar. hebts run against my vision for this state because the people who are funding my campaign and are supporting my campaign are

. >> the associated press working with kaiser health news has undertaken look at public health departments across the country and reports that it currently lacks staff, funding and tools to she would administer and track the doses to some 330 million people. ... >> about what kind the logistics that has been mapped out already between the companies and they know that capacity to the distributor and let's be clear this is not the first rodeo the cdc for the influenza vaccine with 80000 doses i'm sorry 80 million doses in a typical year so the framework for achieving this is something we already had in place i do think they are right to point out it is a stretch and they have been allowed me to financial stress because i haven't seen like a priority so there needs to be a lot of attention for that backstop for any of those efforts and we are looking at that intensive. >> you talked a few minutes ago about talking about perhaps the third bomb of the first wave. to lead you attribute the rise of covid-19 cases across the country? i will suggest some possibilities is at the cooler temperatures?

energy in this world that doesn't have risk associated with it in nuclear it is very very low so i feel so very safe technology our job is to protect public health and safety and never have an accident that jeopardizes public health or safety so that's with us every day people like me come in here in the 650 men and women. the work here that is our focus the safe operation of this plant. i live right across the street from vermont yankee. they've always been a good neighbor i had children that go to the school which is also right across the street from my yankee. you don't move to vernon and live in vernon if you're worried about the point both our girls live in town or 6 grandchildren live in town in fact my my youngest daughter lives down the road here well as the crow flies it's less than a half mile from the point and you know we don't worry about the point of being here. i live 70 miles from the vermont yankee nuclear power plant and what that means in terms of any sort of incident or accident that might happen in that plant is that if it was a serious incident most likely i would no longer be able to live in my home the whole area would be

patrice harris is with us now, former president of the american medical association and a former public healthwith us. and based on what we do know, and also what we don't know, is president trump currently covid-free, free of complications, could he relapse or could he still be contagious or is he in the clear to hit the campaign trail again? >> well, thank you for having me, arthel. and certainly i can't speak to the specifics of the president's health and certainly wish the president and everyone else who is dealing with covid-19 continued recovery. whowe know that some folks recor without further symptoms. but we also know that there are many who continue to experience longer term symptoms of covid-19 and tragically over 200,000 folks in our country have died. and so we need to always keep in mind that as far as the novel coronavirus is relentless in its ability to infect and we need to continue to make sure we are all following basic public health measures to mitigate the spread of the virus. arthel: right. and of course we want the president to be fully recovered and to progress as he ap

association. doctor shorstein at the johns hopkins bloomberg school of public health. thank you all for joining us. let me start with you. one of the reasons we are doing this program today is they are anxious by what they've seen with regards to some of the management in the past, and there's concerns about how a virus or vaccine is going to rollout in the various therapeutics. so here's my question to take off the corporate hat for a minute, should americans be anxious about some part of this or have confidence that the system is going to work? >> i think we should have confidence the system is going to work. we have lifelong medical staff and resources that have done the kind of work all over again. i think what is unprecedented which is another term they use frequently is the truthful example. in a short amount of time i think with that unprecedented effort comes a strong supply chain and you have healthcare professionals we all want to give back to more of a normal lifestyle. i want to see my family. i know many of us would enjoy spending holidays together. so let

public health crisis. the a.c.a. has also been associated with improving job opportunities. the majority of people in the united states access health coverage through their employer, yet by improving access to coverage that is not job based, the a.c.a. has afforded people the ability to leave or switch jobs with assurance that they won't lose the coverage. moreover, the a.c.a. created at least 240,000 jobs in the health care industry from 2014 to 2016, and women comprised the majority of health care workers. the chaos that would result from repealing the a.c.a. would be felt particularly acutely by these employed in these jobs. three, repealing the a.c.a. would exacerbate existing barriers to reproductive maternal health care services. according to the centers for disease control and prevention, pregnant people with covid-19 have higher rates of hospitalization, admission to the intensive care unit and mechanical ventilation, and alarmingly, black pregnant women are disproportionately contracting covid-19. subsequently, there are concerns that the pandemic will exacerbate exi

epidemiologist, laboratory people, the i emergency planner, public-health advisors, a complete public-health core people we need to make sure they have and associatedresources with those people to ensure this vaccine is well planned and has a need to get out within our communities. >> what is your view? you've devoted your life work to public-health and boosting trusted authorities in the infrastructure, what we need to be focused on right now? >> i would just add to what he already said, we need to do is make sure we make it possible for the systems we know have delivered for decades and decades and what they need to be successful. all of the things people have already talked about around building thosein systems, it starts with building the confidence within those systems, adequately funding those systems, making sure we have the personnel and making sure we have data systems in place that will be so important for continuing to track the distribution -- . >> i am afraid because over the past decade, for the public-health agencies they've left them with her on that we don't have the same kind of infrastructure in place so what can we do? >> part o

tonight, the associated press is reporting that president trump unhappy with meadows public assessment of his health and released a video message on twitter this evening to prove that he is indeed in good condition now in the hospital video the president defended his controversial decision to continue campaigning. >>and holding large events even in the middle of this pandemic eric runge has the very latest. >>the confusion centered around just when the president was diagnosed his doctor tonight saying that the president isn't out of the woods yet, but they are cautiously optimistic and the president is also feeling that way. >>medical sitting behind a desk president trump tonight at walter reed hospital look to reassure the american public i came here wasn't feeling so well. >>i feel much better now we're working hard to get me all the way back the president was flown to walter reed medical center to be treated for covid-nineteen friday evening after what his chief of staff mark meadows called a very concerning period friday. >>his doctors today painted a much rosier picture of health for the presid

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psychologist is calling on the american psychiatric association to drop the so-called goldwater rule which bars mental health professionals from diagnosing publicmp says, quote, psychiatrists know what is wrong with my uncle and it's time they tell voters. mary trump joins us now. she is the author of "too much' never enough and how far my family created the most world's most dangerous man. >> you've been outspoken for your uncle months now. what do you say to medical professionals who believe that discussing the president's mental fitness could add to a mental illness stigma discussing it the way you do? >> i would say that not discussing it adds to the mental health illness stigma. you know, by pretending that mental illness is somehow out of bounds is to suggest that there is something shameful about it and that is not the case. also in the context of our leaders, what could be more important to the american electorate than the psychological well-being than the people in charge? >> i chastised laura trump two sundays ago for diagnosing joe biden's skills. she is not a medical professional or a psychologist or psychiatrist at all. do you worr

the associated press, working in partnership with kaiser health news, has undertaken a substantive look at public health departments across the country and reports that they currently lack the staff, funding, tools to distribute, administer, and track doses to some 330 million people. how big a challenge is this going to be once we have a vaccine and how do you see that resolved? dr. collins: that is a great question and it is a good thing we are thinking about that now and not waiting until the end of the year. are requiredates to send plans to the federal government a few days ago about how they would do distribution. thinking ahead about what kind of logistics would need to be addressed. the distribution, true of the states across the various locales, has been pretty well mapped out between the companies making the doses -- they know what capacities going to be -- and the distributors -- . this is not the first rodeo. the cdc overseas this for influenza every year. i am 80,000 doses -- sorry. 80 million doses go out in one year. the framework for achieving this is something that we have alread

public health background. both were tasked with watching dr. robert redfield, the agency's director and other scientists there. the associated press, which is investigating this story says congress is now investigating the pair. >> numerous examples of the administration's attempts to shelve scientific guidance coming out of the cdc or to change or gain editorial control over scientific publications. >> a number of administration officials corroborated the story with the associated press on the condition they remain anonymous. >>> president trump is denying california's request for wildfire assistance. coming up how governor newsom plans to move forward. >>> plus the reason why dozens of san francisco schools are reportedly considering a name change. you might be surprised at some of the current names considered inappropriate. >>> and we have a recurring theme this morning, many areas are cooler than san francisco right now. one of those being san jose where it's in the mid 60s. your commute planner shows that's your biggest worry, dealing with the heat whether on the roads, mass transit or taking the (garage door opening) i

unethical to address i don't give to every associate says health officials typically aim to achieve herd immunity by vaccination never in the history of public health has heard immunity been used as a strategy for responding to an outbreak a little more a pandemic it's scientifically and ethically problematic 1st we don't know enough about immunity to cope with 19 most people who are infected with the virus that go to school with 19 develop an immune response within the 1st few weeks but we don't know how strong or lasting that immune response is or how it differs for different people we have some clues but we don't have the complete picture health care workers in china have been told to test all 9000000 residents of qingdao in just 5 days the city has reported a dozen new cases linked to a hospital treating cave in 19 patients certain areas of the city have already been placed under lockdown al-jazeera investigations is next with an exclusive undercover look at the cyprus papers to stay with us. if. al jazeera as investigative unit goes undercover in cypress. will reveal how the specter of corruption hangs over the island's passport by inve

paris now and discuss this with tomasz michalski, associate professor of economics and decision sciences department, hec paris. clearly there is a public healthtions. they start tomorrow. what happens is that any public places, in fact, that have, they are taking in public. so, for example, public venues that you can think of the different types here that do not have a strict protocol, will have to close down. that will have to close down. that will include restaurants in silk, yesterday, when the ministry agreed that they follow a special protocol to keep them open. bars will close. many other venues were already closed like gyms, various party rooms, etc. talk us various party rooms, etc. talk us through the economic impact of this is having. marseille and other parts of france are under very strict measures. the government is desperate to avoid another national lockdown. your thoughts on how this is affecting the french economy? the philosophy of the government is to keep the pandemic under control. and they feel this is some planning problem. so they are taking into account the capacity of the hospital system, and they are introducing str

public health background. both were tasked with watching dr. robert redfield, the agency's director and other scientists there. the associated press, which is investigating this story says congress is now investigating the pair. >> numerous examples of the administration's attempts to shelve scientific guidance coming out of the cdc or to change or gain editorial control over scientific publications. >> a number of administration officials corroborated the story with the associated press on the condition they remain anonymous. >>> happening today, cooling centers will be opening across santa clara county in response to the expected high temperatures. you can see a list of locations on your screen here. social distancing will be enforced and you have to be free of covid-19 symptoms to be able to enter one of those cooling centers. let's check in with mike to hear exactly how hot we could expect it to be on this friday. >> 90s everywhere. even the coast. yeah. it's going to be a record setting day. triple digits are possible in some areas, especially if you're on pavement for any length of time this afternoon, that's a reminde

the associated press working in partnership with kaiser health news is undertaken a substantive look at public health departments across the country and reports that they currently lack the staff, funding and tools to distribute administer and track the doses to 330 million people, how big a challenge is this going to be once we have a vaccine and how do you see that result. >> that's a great question and a good thing were thinking about that now and not waiting until the end of the year, all of the states are required to send their plans to the federal government a few days ago about how they would do the distribution part looking ahead at what logistics would need to be addressed, the distribution to the states across the localities that are needed has been pretty well mapped out already between the companies that will be making the doses and they know what the capacity is going to be and then the distributors, let's be clear, this is been done before, it's not the first rodeo, the cdc oversees it for the influenza vaccine every year and 80000 doses, i'm sorry 80 million doses go out there i

public health experts blame the rise on a combination of cooling weather and growing reluctance to adhere to covid-19 restrictions. >>> senator kamala harris is putting her travel on hold tonight after three people associated with her campaign tested positive for the coronavirus. one is a member of the flight crew of a charter plane. the other is harris' communications director. a third person, a member of the ground crew for the charter aviation company the campaign uses was found through contact tracing. harris tested negative, but to be cautious she canceled travel plans through sunday. >>> well, a new push tonight for mayors up and down california to get students back in the classroom safely. the call comes from the big city mayors coalition as many districts are still trying to iron out plans for the rest of the school year. the mayors say they want unified re-openings. >> we know for low income children that may depend on school for that lunch they may not otherwise get, for nutrition, for health care, for socialization, all of the things that are so essential for our children. >> now, the coalition isn't dedemanding all schools reopen at once. they want a plan. they would also like the most vulnerab

. >> "the associated press" working in partnership with kaiser health news has undertaken a a substantive loot public health departments across the country and reports they currently lack the staff, the funding, the tools to distribute, administer, track the doses to some 330 million people. how big a challenge is this going to be once we have vaccine, and how do you see that resolve? >> that's a great question and it's a good thing we're thinking about that now and not waiting until the end of the year. all of the states were required to thin there -- how they would do this distribution part thinking at about what kind of logistics would need to be addressed. the distribution across the various localities has been pretty well mapped out already between the companies that would be making the doses, and they know what their capacities going to be, and then the distributors, particularly places like -- let's be clear this is been done before. this is not the first rodeo. the cdc oversees this for influenza vaccine every year and about 80,000 doses -- i'm sorry, 80 million doses go out in a typical year

americans need to double down on public health basics like wearing masks, social distancing, avoiding crowds and frequent hand washing. joining me now is dr. carlos dell rio associate dean at emery university medical school. good to see you. >> good seeing you, fred. >> so in your view could these record numbers have been avoided by more people doing the basics? >> yeah, and unfortunately we have grossly mishandled the pandemic and the fact that it's taken off again, it just reminds us how we're not learning from our mistakes. we could have avoided this by doing the right thing, but we don't seem to learn. and i think besides the things that we have talked about about masking, social distancing, washing your hands, it's really important that we avoid large crowds, congregate settings, especially indoors, indoor congregation, in bars and houses is a concern. i'm very concerned about what's going to happen next. we're about to enter the winter season. people will be indoors. we're about to enter the holiday season. i see cases only going up if we don't do the appropriate things. >> and with the holiday season, fast approaching, i mean there are people who are feeling

, the yaidea that there's an outbreak associated with the white house, and i should point out, because of their violations of their own guidelines for public health that it's not just the president but many of those potentially surrounding him who could be vulnerable to this illness, i think, it really encourages more governments to think that the u.s. is not being run by a steady hand, first of all. second of all, their attention is going to be distracted by this as well as the election. so, you know, there's all sorts of conflicts that could break out where the u.s. might normally play a steadying hand or a mediating role. look at armenian azerbaijan. a hot war has broken out and nobody's talking about that here in the united states. so i think it's very serious situation from an international perspective as well. >> in your excellent new book, peter, let's talk about the man who ran washington. we're not talking about the current president of the united states. we're talking about the former secretary of state, james baker. what lessons did both of you learn from that era that might be applicable right now? >> well, one of the things we wanted

associated in this dangerous disease. that's why we've got to do more and we need to be listening to the public health experts at the department of health to get this in the best way possible. >> i think we are becoming friends and by the way, whatever happens in the next hour is going to be completely bonkers compared to what is happening right now. the task force and what has followed it is bringing together the very experts that he's talking about. if you get the chance to be governor, part of being governor or lieutenant governor means you have to make incredibly difficult decisions. we are threading a needle. this is a pandemic unlike anything we have seen and we have brought together and are still working over 250 individuals every day the best and brightest in the state. medical professionals, emergency response teams coming together making recommendations to the governor that then makes the decisions. that is what is best about utah and it shows in our success the best economy during a pandemic with unemployment 4.1% and one of the lowest mortality rates in the country at .6%. now again it hasn't been perfect and we ha