and then the time the image appeared at puckett's wrecker was nearly the same time. >> i think it was her spirit, apparition. and she come back to look for something. >> when people would watch it, the first thing they'd say it or she is looking for something. >> her husband had come up here and cleaned out the truck and had got all her belongings out of it like her wallet with her kids' pictures in it. so it could have been that. >> paranormal investigator joe nichol has a different theory. >> the least likely possibility is it's a ghost. the idea of a ghost is a lovely one, romantic, but not credible. but illusions of films of things that could look like ghosts aren't usually hoaxes or anomalies that just happen. >> over the next ten years, psychics, camera crews, and professional debunkers analyze the video. none has been able to definitively explain the image. >> i believe that it's not a hoax, doesn't have the warning signs and earmarks of a hoax. not easy to reproduce as a hoax. but it looks just like what happens when various kinds of insects get attracted to a security camera.

and since the last time we were out here, they have even been so nice to add five gallon puckett of watertesy of the united states government. >> president obama doesn't seem to be taking the border situation seriously. >> the shared border is more secure than it has been in years. illegal immigration attempts in the united states to the lowest level in decades. >> laura: how can we come one a plan to fix the immigration system if we don't know who is crossing the border? joining us now from new york is dennis michael lunch who made the film "they came to america, too: the cost of amnesty." frand san diego, the founder of border angel and immigrant rights groups. let's start with you enrique. did anything in that film that you just saw, the clip of, disturb you? >> well, it's a clip that i'm not surprised to see on fox news. something trying to paint picture, not what is happening along the entire border. there is isolated cases and so forth. we know more people are going south than north today. so the border has not been more secure and janet napolitano said and the overwhelming people t