for instance, someone like pudster in the department of labor who understands if we want to get the economy moving again and make it good for business, we can't mandate leave wage. this comes from businesses understanding what's good for them, and that's going to help not only employees, but consumers as well. i'm encouraged by some of those picks. >> i'm encouraged, too, but john, it's amazing how we've gone from number one on that list, the most business friendly country in the world, to number 23. that's an embarrassment. >> it's an embarrassment but it's not so amazing when you consider the bad policy the past 16 years. so trump, at least so far, you could say is taking us in the right direction with tax cuts and deregulation. but there are dangerous signals out there. this week he appointed peter navarro and avowed protectionist. trump will not be great nor the economy great if he goes protectionist and anti-dollar. watch out. >> so bill, a lot of libertarians like john don't have that much hope for the future. >> i have hope. we could move a long way up on the rankings just by appeali