pugh to also noted that other countries including the u.s.were continuing improve their medium-range missiles. lex the headaches do not and therefore obama. afghan president hamid karzai has suspended negotiations with washington on a new security deal. >> karzai is outraged over u.s. plans to hold direct talks with the taliban without the president's delegates from the karzai administration. >> further undermining -- underlining the challenges to the peace process, the taliban launched a fresh attack on u.s. peace forces overnight, killing for you are soldiers. >> the view from the air shows where the taliban launched their audacious attack on the largest and most important u.s. base in afghanistan. four u.s. servicemen were killed. >> i would like to take the opportunity to express my heartfelt condolences to the family and loved ones of all fallen heroes. >> the attack came just hours after the u.s. and taliban announced they would open direct talks with the taliban opened a new office on tuesday. in berlin today, president obama said he k

pugh to also noted that other countries including the u.s.ere continuing improve their medium-range missiles. lex the headaches do not and therefore obama. afghan president hamid karzai has suspended negotiations with washington on a new security deal. >> karzai is outraged over u.s. plans to hold direct talks with the taliban without the president's delegates from the karzai administration. >> further undermining -- underlining the challenges launched a fresh attack on u.s. peace forces overnight, killing for you are soldiers. >> the view from the air shows where the taliban launched their audacious attack on the largest and most important u.s. base in afghanistan. four u.s. servicemen were killed. >> i would like to take the opportunity to express my heartfelt condolences to the family and loved ones of all fallen heroes. >> the attack came just hours after the u.s. and taliban announced they would open direct talks with the taliban opened a new office on tuesday. in berlin today, president obama said he knew the path to peace would be frau

. >> earlier today, there were reports president vladimir pugh 10 had canceled exactly such a tour with his german opposite, angela merkel, to a museum in st. petersburg because she was planning precisely such demands. reports of the cancellation, pewter and said nothing had been called off and that the pre-agreed itinerary would be followed after all. lex the pair did tour the exhibition, merkel did make her demands, and this has taken away the focus from the real reason she is there -- and international economic forum. >> the two leaders' smiles concealed and economic class. the dispute over vladimir puget and angela merkel's joint visit to st. petersburg's museum threatened to overshadow anything -- vladimir pugh 10 and angela merkel's joint visit -- vladimir. -- vladimir putin and angela merkel's joint visit. russia lays a moral claim to the works, saying it paid for the minute peoples -- paid for them and its peoples own blood. the visit by the german chancellor and russian president to the museum was supposed to be the crowning moment of the the year in which the countries have sh

. >> earlier today, there were reports president vladimir pugh 10 had canceled exactly such a tour with his german opposite, angela merkel, to a museum in st. petersburg because she was planning precisely such demands. reports of the cancellation, pewter and said nothing had been called off and that the pre-agreed itinerary would be followed after all. lex the pair did tour the exhibition, merkel did make her demands, and this has taken away the focus from the real reason she is there -- and international economic forum. >> the two leaders' smiles concealed and economic class. the dispute over vladimir puget and angela merkel's joint visit to st. petersburg's museum threatened to overshadow anything -- vladimir pugh 10 and angela merkel's joint visit -- vladimir. -- vladimir putin and angela merkel's joint visit. russia lays a moral claim to the works, saying it paid for the minute peoples -- paid for them and its peoples own blood. the visit by the german chancellor and russian president to the museum was supposed to be the crowning moment of the the year in which the countries have sh

. >> a new pugh research poll finds 70% are against the u.s. and its allies sending arms and military supplies to anti-got groups in syria, 20% are in favor. nearly two-thirds say the u.s. is overcommitted the sdmroop syria is expected to take center stage at this week's g-8 summit. while they support opposing sides in the conflict, they agree that the civil war must come toon end. nbc news chief whus correspondent chuck todd joins us live from ireland. chuck, good morning. >> good morning, mara. you played the president's comments to charlie rose there about syria. one other point he made in that interview had to do with the fact that the united states doesn't want to take sides necessarily in a sectarian war between sunni and shia. and what he -- the point he made to russian president putin behind closed doors was this, that the united states goal here is not to push the entire assad regime out, an important ally to the russians, just assad himself, that the assad regime seemed to be at the negotiating table. that seemed to help russia putin

. >> 15-year-old terry pugh died late that january.ody dumped on a roadside 20 miles from home. he had been strangled. >> whoever kill him he had to usle with him because he had scratches all over. >> it gives me chills down my spine still. >> to this day, kathy andrews does not believe wayne's explanation. >> he did not fall in a bush. it was after he realized it it was fairly obvious. i don't know what else could have caused that wound on his arm. >> the intervals between murders were shrinking. 19 days from lubi's disappearance until terry pugh's death, then 15 days until the next victim. soon 13. then 11. before long, a body a week. fbi profiler roy hazelwood says this is not unusual for serial killers. >> they come to believe that they in fact, are almost immune to mistakes, if you will. and they can take greater risks because it's more exciting and because they're so superior they don't have to worry about the inferior police catching them. >> after a month, lubie jeter' body would be found in the woods, the boy left naked except

this is a new pugh poll out about reaction to the u.s.llies sending arms to the rebels in syria. you see the steady decline since march of 2012, favoring that support and opposition going up. with that, let's bring in the panel. steve haze, and syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. the meeting, steve, we don't know too much behind closed doors, but just being on two sides of that same civil war, you could imagine it might be frosty. >> no question about it. i think body language suggests they didn't reach many accommodations beyond agreeing they want to push toward some negotiated settlement. i think the problem is pretty fundamental. the russians have been supplying the syrian regime, are friendly with the syrian regime, going back years. and the united states has made noise about supporting the opposition, offered some sort of soft support for the opposition, now seems inclined to step up that support. you could push these sides to the negotiating table, but as long as you're funding opposite sides, you're not going to have much br

i think if the pugh foundation had down a sampling of people in the mental health field, particularly those of us who worked in substance abuse, you would have found a far greater number of people who were not for legalizing marijuana because we've seen the effects on people, the brain, the damage that is done, and this idea that it's not as bad as alcohol or it doesn't really do anything. i just say that's just simply not true. >> thank you, suzanne. >> yeah, suzanne, that's a great point. there's a whole chapter in the book devoted to discussing the literature about the harms associated with marijuana use, and, you know, as i said, i think most people that use alcohol and marijuana don't have problems, but it can cause serious problems for some individuals. we know that marijuana use can increase the probability of anxiety or panic attacks, increase the risk of traffic accidents. we know that some people become dependent causing problems for them, problems with their families, and, so, no, marijuana is not a benign substance, but what -- it'll be interesting to see, you know, for th

the pugh research indicates 70 manufactures said it's okay for them to stay. -- . 43% say citizenship applications should be delayed until border security is beefed- up. >> >> high-profile florida murder trial begins with opening statements tomorrow. george zimmerman is accused of 2nd degree murder in the shooting death of teenager trayvon martin. the jury is under sequestration orders that began this weekend and could last up to a month. zimmerman has said the shooting was as a result of self- defense, but it has become a national issue because zimmerman is hispanic and trayvon martin is an archdiocese american. . this happened thursday after the final game between miami heat and san antonio spurs. reid was shot by a stray bullet. >> i thought he was playing around with me to play a prank on me because the heat won. >> doctors say reid was very lucky. they expect him to make a full recovery >> some people getting a first glimpse of an abandoned housing complex. as you can see from the pictures, it has been turned into an usual work of art. >> eric rasmussen got a sneak peek of it bef

. >> a new pugh research poll finds 70% are against the u.s. and its allies sending arms and military supplies to anti-government groups in syria, 20% are in favor. nearly two-thirds say the u.s. is overcommitted to get involved in another conflict. syria is expected to take center stage at this week's g-8 summit. while they support opposing sides in the conflict, they agree that the civil war must come to an end. nbc news chief correspondent chuck todd joins us live from ireland. chuck, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, marra. in fact, the two leaders of the former cold war super powers took pains to look like they get along. they tried to have a better body language for the tv cameras as they were escorted in than they did a few months ago when the two met and seemed to have a contentious disagreement over what to do about syria. yesterday what the president took pains to emphasize to president putin behind the scenes was that the united states' interest here was not in shoving out the entire assad regime of syria, just assad himself.

americans are divided on the surveillance program according to a recent poll by usa today and pugh research center. 48% approve of them as part of the effort to fight terrorism. 47% do not. >> the prospects for peace in afghanistan received a surprise boost with the announcement of direct talks between the united states and the taliban. but there was also a deadly reminder of the challenges when four u.s. soldiers died in a taliban attack on the very same day. nhk world in kabul reports on the difficult road ahead. >> the taliban on tuesday announced the opening of -- capital with the new communication channel with neighboring negotiations to seek a peaceful solution to long running violence in afghanistan. the taliban has a repeatedly demanded the united states release five of the senior members detained at guantanamo bay. their status will likely be the early focus of the negotiations. taliban leaders are hoping the talks with the united states will give them credibility as an organization. even so, the taliban has claimed responsibility for attack on tuesday at bagram air base outside ka

a "washington post" pugh research poll that came out suggesting that overall public has not changed at all on this subject since 2006. supportschanged is who what. we're only 30% of democrats these programs when they were george bush's to run, 64% of democrats support it and the republicans have gone exactly the other way. essentially -- as long as it's our guy in the chair, we're this.omfortable with and it is interesting given that he was a constitutional law professor who spoke so much civil liberties but it is a different role he's in now. is there a defensiveness on the people inse so many congress supposedly were briefed about this, supposedly knew a some oft it and i know them said being briefed is not the same as knowing the extent easier tot it's edward snowden now than to take responsibility. what's your sense about what they know? this time, unlike when george bush was caught going around the courts and around congress. they have been briefed. people in the white house were saying the first day, if there's a scandal here, they're part of it, too. but you are hearing talk of

- public performance of captions prohibited without permission of national captioning institute >> pugh! >> what? >> was that you? >> what are you talking about? >> cora, what is that smell? >> what? >> girl, you need to do something. >> i'm cooking my bacon, egg, artichoke casserole. at the county fair, it was number one. >> well, it smell like a number two, cora. that's nasty! >> don't be like that, mr. brown. >> i ain't being like nothing. cora, somebody breaking in! here -- throw your casserole at them! >> stop it! stop being silly, mr. brown! oh, it's just derek. oh, oh, and huggy bear. >> hey! you don't know high fashion when you see it. >> i know you must have been high when you got dressed. >> [ chuckles ] >> now, if brown's criticizing your clothing, you know something's wrong. >> oh, hey, hey, what's wrong with my clothes? >> nothing, if you at the scramble board on "soul train." "number 2, and the clues are..." >> so, what are you guys doing here so early? >> early? >> yeah. >> we had a 7:00 tee time. >> mm-hmm. >> uh, it's 9:30 now, and we only drink coffee, you know. >> no,

made nominations to five of them so he had mary jo white at the i c c he just recently nominated mr pugh war if i'm pronouncing that correctly in mystifying to the f.c.c. mel watt to the f.h. f.a.a. and mr metzger to the credit union association. and then he we're still waiting on three from them two of them are kind if you two of them are gary gensler and elizabeth duke at the federal reserve board expired last year but they're still serving in office the only one that's really clear is the federal reserve independent the vice chairman for supervision that was created by dodd frank it's been a thousand and fifty five days and there's still been no nominee for that and here we are waiting for the fall of the senate to confirm so the four that i mentioned plus they actually nominated mary jo white for two different terms one that finishes next year and then another one for an additional five or six years after that so that one still waiting and richard cordray is the other sort of way that they're the senate is faced with six of them right now and only one of them has been for a long peri

it is, in some smaller percentage than they suggest, both at pugh and amongst folks i had aword r two. there is some god, and there is also some submerge material that a lot of ppeople didn't look at. we're now looking at 5.1 million married mothers who have a higher income than their husbands. that's great. who re they? let's ask ourselves what this all means. 49% of them have at least a college degree, 65% of them are white, 67% between the ages of 30-50. they are more matue. ththey aree median family incoms nearly $80,000, and i think that's pretty much what most people would epect, but all that is not what impressed me in thestudy or concerned me and beeve it or not, there re few folks who thought i shouldn't be concerned or i shouldn' be oubledy what we are seeing, and i don't know why they elt that way. frankly, i don't care because it was more ideological. it was more reflexive. it had somethg to do in some abstract way, i think, with soe sort of gender politics, but here what mydetractors refuse to acknoedge. in some cases, they didn' want to talk about it. the single moms, th

the pugh research study is a very troubling study. as we were talking about, 40% of the women are bread winners now in american families. beyond that, 63% are working moms without a lot of resources. we're talking about on average, a single mother heading up a household is earning $23,000. it's all quite something different when we're talking about a working mother in a complete household, if you will, who's making on average $80,000 a year. and that is what i was getting to in this study. an area that is simply eluded -- >> just to crystallize it, were you talking about the lower income mothers who are the sole support of their children. and that there's chaos in a lot of those homes because there's no dad around or whatever. >> in those homes, those children are born into an at risk situation that is prone to drugs, prone to psychological illness, prone to -- >> it's a poverty driver. now that sounds reasonable. but you go on with ms. megyn kelly. >> i love megyn. >> we are looking at a society in which change is the absolute hallma

the fiat 500, powered by beats. [ horn honks ] >>> in a recent pugh research poll -- in tonight's realityether same sex couples in california would actually be able to get married based on the most likely outcome. >> reporter: steps of san francisco city hall have been historic in the ongoing battle for marriage equality. certainly in 2004 when marriage licenses were issued. and when the state court upheld the constitutionality for couples to wed. >> i am confident that weigh will see marriages occur here in the state of california after the supreme court issues its opinion. it's just a question of when, and we're going to be prepared. >> reporter: but under what circumstances would california couples be able to wed and wed soon? if the court deems the case to be inprovidently granted, that would be one matter. if the court dismisses the case because they refused to defend prop8 and it didn't have proper standing it could get messy. >> if the court does kick the case on standing grounds it would be really important. i think what they would do is send it back to the lower courts for them t

i quoted a pugh poll released only in january that said 53% of americans now regard the federal government to their rights and their freedom. this isn't saying we think government is too big, a threat to their rights and freedom, more than half the people in this united states? there's obviously a problem of some sort here. we had the president just last week, after the surveillance leak broke, saying that, look, we have a lot of oversight, we have the executive branch, judicious judiciary, legislative branch, we have a lot of oversight. if these people can't be trusted we have some problems here. >> we have some problems here because the irs scandal makes it clear the government was leaning on people merely organizing to commit politics. i thought the directors answers were pretty astounding and now we have the director of the fbi saying he doesn't know what's going on. a week or soing a we have the former head of the irs saying he had no idea what's going on in cincinnati. why wouldn't people be distrustful of a government that talks like that. >> mark, i want to bring you in because you

. ♪ >>> so pugh research has a new poll on whether phone tracking should be used to fight terror. 66%re fine with it. so what, it is the change of views depending on who's president at the time that's key to me. for example, when bush was president, 61% of dems said tracking was wrong. now under obama, 64% say it is okay. total reversal. as drastic as sex change. nsa surveillance. there are a butt load of democrats and fair amount of republicans, too, which is why you should ask are they motivated less by principle and more by politics. defenders of civil liberties say the opposite years ago. me, i believe the world has changed. our enemy is way different and need to adapt to save our civilization. you would be wrong if you thought i am forfeiting any freedoms. i am consistent boys doing everything possible to protect my family, my way of life. collecting phone calls without listening to them, like a trash man micking up the trash. if there's a crime on the street, they can search the local dump. you may think i am wrong, but i don't change my tune depending on who's in charge, and th

there's a similar poll by pugh and "the washington post" with slightly different wording, it asks aboutrecords, acceptable, unacceptable. 56% of americans are saying if you're investigating terror, they view it as acceptable. 62% say it is more important that we are tracking foreign terrorists than even intruding on privacy. i think if you put it in those terms, you get greater support. >> charles, democrats and republicans on the intelligence committees in particular say this program is legal, and has oversite, and you have to go through a court to get to listen to something. they have to prove under the rules, the fisa court, to listen in. however, i guess the concern i hear most is that let's say somebody doesn't color within the lines in this program, if this 29-year-old can get these documents, if he's doing what he's doing, doesn't that concern somebody that there could be abuse here? >> look, everything that we have can be abused. we have a police department where the cops have guns and they can shoot and they can shoot illegally or incompetently or crazily, but you don't abolish

. ♪ >> michael: a bit of sobering news tonight, a new study from the pugh research center shows thata quarter of american families struggle to put food on their table. but this poverty is no longer isolated to urban and rural areas. suburbia is now home to the largest and fastest growing poor population in the country. problems stretch across the country from surprising areas like cape corral florida to colorado springs. suburban poverty is a problem that lacks visibility possibly because it challenges our preconceived notion of the white picket fences and man cured lawns. joining us to talk about this is elizabeth kneebone. elizabeth we welcome you into "the war room." >> thank you for having me. >> michael: so suburban poffer city rising without much notice from the rest of the country. when did you become aware of the problem and what made you decide to write this book? >> the first time we took a look at these trends was with the release of the first american community survey. we used to look across with the census. in 2006 we got a first look at decade trends and we wrote our fi

there is actually a bigger concern for the gop which is that pugh has a report that shows 40% of theing age population growth between now and 2030 is going to be among hispanics. you combine that with the voting age growth population and the combined voting age population growth among people is going to be 76%. now, are all of those people going to vote? of course not? are all of them going to vote democratic? probably not. democrats don't need all of them to vote democratic. it is such a phenomenal population explosion that it really spells trouble for the gop unless they find a way to extend their tent to include more voters of color. that is why immigration is a make or break issue. >> certainly a make or break issue for marco rubio. showing foundational policy and legislation to lead on in washington to ramp up to potentially being president of the country. listen to him react to being pressed about his own immigration reform bill. >> do you support your own bill? >> well, obviously i think it is an excellent starting point. 95%, 96% of the bill is in perfect shape and ready to g

. >> it may be, but the reality is, the new pugh research center tracking millions of americans saidhe following, is it acceptable for the nsa to track calls of millions of americans acceptable 56%, not acceptable 41%. the significant majority of americans appear to be in favor of this. going back to you, ambassador woolsey if i may, i want to read the fourth amendment of the constitution, to remind people. the right of the people to be secure in a person's houses, against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be warranted. particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized. i just don't see how you can say that what is going on here in complete secrecy from 99% of the people it's being done to, lives up to the fourth amendment of the u.s. constitution. it's a breach, isn't it? >> it depends on whether or not you want to preserve your country's ability to operate in a world of terrorism in which a lot of twists are very technically sophisticated. if you want to defend the country, you're going to have to defend it. >> i understand that, tha

. >> tony pugh. you mentioned an estimated five percent of the insured market is in the individual market. i wanted to find out what percentage is covered to the small-group market directof the fix -- direct market. of the five or six states, you mentioned new jersey, what about the other three or four question mark -- or four? and the availability of the catastrophic coverage that typically have lower premiums, is that not a viable option for the young, healthy people that will face the entire premiums? >> the other states awe're -- we're talking about would be new jersey, new york, massachusetts, vermont. we might consider maine, washington, oregon. those last states less so than the first several i mentioned. your second question? i don't have those numbers with me but that would roughly be about 12% of the population. and that's through, when we talk about small groups, companies with 50 or fewer employees. >> the catastrophic coverage? >> the catastrophic coverage, plan will be out there for you

>> stephanie: pugh research poll said almost 60% of the country thinks the nsa spying on them is finef it was acceptable people in 2006, 2010 and today, expressed about two to one support. >> i'm concerned about the slippery slope. it's like i have known nothing wrong as far as you know. >> stephanie: right, i think that argument is valid too, that that's the argument people use for a lot of things like oh, what do you have to worry about if -- and i personally think well-known southern bell lindsey graham should be a little concerned about his private conversations, since he seems to be so private as a citizen. >> i think he might find his grinder profile. >> stephanie: could be. who knows. about a thousand calls are texted to john mccain while he was in syria, what ya doing? why so distant? but hey, the good news great topic for talk radio. maybe someone in talk radio is behind this leak. [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> aha! >> stephanie: all right. seventeen minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> oh, come on! you have got to admit this is cool! >> announcer:

pugh research has the facts about how much more involved today's fathers are in home life.ck in '65. 1965, though. 7.3 hours per week, and still about half the time mothers spend. i did the statistics. fathers even at their best, the new fathers with about 10% of their waking life. it's not dramatically better. they fathers spend more than double the hours per week doing housework than they did back in '65, although again, mothers still do twice as much housework as fathers, generally. and one of the starkest changes, mothers are now the sole or primary bread winner in 40% of all households, two out of five. in 1960 that was just 11% of the homes. that's a big change, women carrying the money load in households across the country. joining me are two modern american fathers we think, msnbc contributor and former u.s. congressman patrick murphy of pennsylvania, and "time" magazine's michael shearer, who wrote this week's cover story on the nsa. there it was. we were taken, michael, our producers and i, with what a good father you are, because you make decisions that don't nec

pugh says many of the stories were about changing attitudes or new politician support. >>> a solar-poweredlane that launched its inaugural flight from mountain view was completed its first leg of its journey. the solar impulse landed. they nearly had an emergency landing. foggy conditions caused water to condense near the engine. the plane is considered the world's most advanced sun-powered aircraft and has about 12,000 solar cells on its wings. the solar impulse's next and final stop is in new york. >>> 5:57. next at 6:00, the north bay town getting ready to crack down on jaywalking. >>> first, the man is found assaulted inside an east bay condo. this morning we're talking to police to find out what >>> live from the kgo-tv broadcast center, this is abc 7 news. >>> now at 6:00, developing news. a man is assaulted overnight inside a walnut creek condo. now the search is on for the attacker responsible. >>> one person is dead after a crash on a san jose road overnight. ahead, leyla gulen will tell us whether this will impact the commute. >>> and the cal bayer's new and improved stadium is o

. >> i want to turn a study and then the pugh research showing that women have become the breadwinnerslot of other concerning and troubling statistics. when we're watching society dissolve around us, juan, what do you think? >> something going terribly wrong in american society. >> some women believe they can have it all. and that's the crux of the problem. >> bottom line, it could undermine our social order. >> how did america get so mediocre? >> you know, i think parents became -- both parents started working. and the mom is in the workplace. >> is it any wonder the president says that there is work that still needs to be done? joining me now, john walsh and michelle carter. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> joan, let me start with you. is the gop stuck in 50 years ago? i mean, did you hear that kind of stuff that they were saying? it's unbelievable. this is 2013. >> i know. and the world is unraveling around us, mainly because of people like me and michelle. it's good to know. no, i men, remember. >> you should be home in the kitchen with an apro

when you ask as pollsters from the "washington post" and pugh did this week if it's more important for the government to investigate terror threats or preserve americans' privacy. an overwhelming majority, 62% say investigate threats even if it violates our privacy. those numbers are, well, i think totally understandable. because everybody wants the government to catch terrorists, and the loss of privacy seems fairly abstract. most americans probably feel pretty far removed from the days of j. edgar hoover spying on dr. martin luther king and with some good reason. if you ask me, in the abstract, do you think it's okay for the government to be able to access millions of americans' phone records and internet activity as long as those tools are just for catching terrorists and they're never, ever abused, i would be tempted to say, yes, that's totally okay. but there's a pretty major sticking point, and that is the as long as it's not abused part. because history tells us that is not actually a thing. a nonabused massive government surveillance apparatus. that is not what dr. martin luthe

the 20 year- old cuban sold more pugh related merchandise is in his first four days with the team than. 3000 and related items and those four days. he wears no. 66. he's getting drenched by his teammates. 17 hits in six games. he did go through his first practice with the patriots today. there is no guarantee that money and his deal. . tim tebow. we have got no idea how to use him but he will start as a quarterback. >> it's such an honor to be a patriot and to play for coach mcdaniel. i learned on their time and to be part of this great franchise is going to be a lot of fun and i'm looking forward to working hard every single day of money under some great people. >>gary: he said the same thing in denver and the same thing with the jets. a lot of people is so excited about camphi.m? he does have good manners. it does sound corny but he wears his religion on his sleeve, which will also get half the people saying i love you and the other half being anointed. when you're not for a string player, i always wonder about that. sergio garcia has made big stories. he made that comment about frie

the reaction to that pugh study saying more than 40% of woman were r are breadwinner in their familybers and we know that because we polled 450,000 members. what are the issues you case art most? the issue they say all the time is pay equity. the gop is not going themselves any favors when they oppose an equal pay bill next week. >> monday is the 50th anniversary of equal pay. >> so not only is this impacting women directly, i mean they're clearly suffering because they're not making the same amount or money for the same amount of work. entire families are suffering because the gop is refusing to hold corporations accountable and they clearly don't think this women deserve to make the same amount of money as men. >> this was the other thing that really struck me about the' action, april, is that it really does put men back in this box that says you're supposed to be the sole provider ap as we know because of the last few years because you had both people working that a lot of families were able to not slip into poverty. men care about the work life balance. it's very important to the

this came from a pew survey that the pugh research center did, and what they found that not as many asould identify the sources of these problems or the concepts behind some of the mayor scientific issues that we discuss on a daily basis. >> bill: i have seen similar surveys for american history, civics, and now for science. are we good at anything? >> we're better than last place. there are a lot of countries behind us, and maybe we can get into some of the questions. >> bill: oh, yeah. >> half of the people answered correctly, which is glass half full or glass half empty. >> bill: and is the idea of this study to show that we need to start spending more money in our schools for basic science and math, is that it? >> that's the point that pew wanted to make in saying when we're discussing things like climate change how we extract energy from the ground things like frac-ing these are major policy issues. it's sort of revealing if the public doesn't understand the basics of what we're talking about. >> bill: and when you have senators who deny climate change and a member of the united s

pugh report on breadwinner moms.shows a rising number of major wagere the earners for their family. thank you to our guests. executive director and contributor to msn dc. thank you. coming up next we will take a look at what is happening in syria and what the u.s. role and international role should be. first, c-span radio. >> looking ahead to the heirs of the sunday talk shows today's topics include the irs, government interception of e- mail and phone call, immigration reform, and u.s.-china relations. c-span radio read-years the program every sunday afternoon. programs every sunday afternoon. "meet the press" is pre-empted by the french open. --sts included feinstein dianne feinstein, the chairman of the senate intelligence committee, mike rogers, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, and democratic senator mark udall. chris wallace talks with grand pauland what -- with rand n and ron johnson. john mccain and elijah cummings -- and an appearance by democratic senator mark his udall. withbob schieffer ta

pugh kaptur. mrs. biggerkaptur. >> some media reports say the irs was targeting conservative groups for political purposes. your report contradicts that claim. can you please comment on if you found any political motivation in reviewing tax-exempt applications? >> congresswoman, let me respond in the following way. when we looked at the -- there were 298 cases put into a category for political activities, we were able to look at 296, because two of them did not contain enough information for us to base a review on, we were able to identify 79 that were definitely put to the side because they had tea party, name ofpatriot in the the group of the vast majority of the others, their names were so innocuous that we could not deem it possible to determine whether or not they were conservative groups or whether or not there were groups that might be on the other side of the political spectrum. something that we are continuing to look at. but in the instance of the political activity matter, we did not uncover

my own research, pugh hispanic center, and others, indicate that illegal workers are overwhelmingly unskilled. 75% are thought to have no education beyond high school. so only 25% with a high school that ion, and less than have a college education. people do not come close to paying their share of taxes for consumption of services. this is not the result of the im grants unwillingness to work. it is not because they are lazy. it is not because they came to get welfare. rather in the modern economy, people with very little education don't make much. education, as you know, has become increasingly important. it turns out your mother was right when she told you to stay in school. what you make in life is very much determined by education. what you pay in taxes reflects your income. and of course your eligibility for you and your children also reflects your income. anyone that argues less educated immigrants or natives, for that matter, can pay enough in taxes to cover their consumption of public services simply just doesn't know what the data shows or they are being disingenuous. one final stati