but trust me, lewis pugh makes it look easy.ld i was going to swim with you, people still said you're getting into the hudson river, where. it still has some of the reputation. >> i hope we can change that, i hope more swim in this river, such a special river. >> reporter: one that pugh has come to know intimately, and one that drew a crowd of spectators to downtown manhattan to take in his final stretch within it. but there's one crowd pugh hopes to rally in even larger numbers, members of the united nations who have the chance to ratify a new treaty aimed to protect 30% of the world's high seas by 2030. >> this is the last piece of the jigsaw puzzle which we needed in order to protect the planet properly. for me the mission isn't complete. >> reporter: because it's not just the swim. >> it's not just the swim. i got to get to the diplomats, the environment ministers and heads of state now to deliver the message. >> reporter: your determination as one person to make world leaders listen and people listen, where does that come f

and j howard pugh of the seven oil company that will give the money generously. i did not like asking people for money so i started writing letters. stewart talk about that cold calling people on the phone, voice to voice. >> that is not me it was not me i' the 20s is not me almost 90's i don't like asking people for money. would you like them a a letter? as a started writing letters that seem to work so i got a secretary of stable to write more letters when they got something part of the innate reviewers understand or knoww about the mimeograph machine i would roll on a drum and would print a few hundred an hour or something like that that seemed to work and then i got computers nobody had heard of in those daysd we started pit spitting ot letters and after about a year end a half at buckley's the national review of the young americans for freedom i began to focus entirely on direct mail. after a year end a half i thought i knew everything to know so i quit a good job hung out my shingle as are the world first direct mail political advertising agency. i did noth

called a couple of other people, the captain from eastern airlines, world war i hero, and jay howard pugh. and i decided i didn't like to ask for money and-- ments talk about calling people on the phone voice so voice. >> that wasn't me at 20 or at 90. >> but you would write them a letter. >> i would write a letter and that seemed to work. i got a secretary and able to write more letters and do something, hardly any of the viewers know, mimeograph machine and that seemed to work and then i got something nobody heard of back in those days, a computer and we started spitting out letters, and then after, i began to focus entirely on direct mail. after a year and a half, i thought i knew everything i needed to know and by then i had a wife and two babies so got a good job and the viguerie the first direct political company and i didn't know nothing, nothing. and i was able to get 12,500, barry goldwater, $50 plus. and when i started in 1965, i had 100,000 goldwater donors and now we're over 10 million. and i recognized the business i was in, wasn't in fund raising or marketing, and i was in a

people like him, captain eddie rickenbacker of eastern airlines, world war one hero, and jay howard pugh of the sun oil company. they all gave me money generously, but i decided i didn't like asking people for myself to write letters. yeah, talk about that a little bit cold. calling people on the phone. voice to voice that. that's not me. it wasn't me. as in my twenties. and it's not me almost 90. i just don't like people asking for money. so you will write them a letter? i started letters and you know, that seemed to work and so i got a secretary and i was able to write more letters. and then i got that hardly any of your viewers understand, remember and know about something. a mimeograph machine, big drum. you wrote it like it would print, you know, a few hundred out letters an hour or something like that. and that seemed to work. and then i got something called computers that nobody had heard of in those days. and we started spitting out letters and and after about a year and a half, by the way, at berkeley national review, young americans for freedom, i began to focus entirely on dir

and the reason i brought this up, matt, because there are two polls that caught my eye, one is the pugh research, we'll put this on the screen. governments should take steps to restrict false information even if it restricts freedom of information among democrats and democrat leaning voters, 70% say yes. then this real clear politics poll that says, that literally one-third of democratic voters, 34% say americans have too much freedom. this compared to 14.6% of republicans. do those numbers surprise you at all? >> no, i mean i think there has been a concerted, you know, long propaganda effort that really began after 9/11 but accelerated in earnest especially after 2016. telling americans that all sorts of problem that are gone on around the world from 9/11 to the election of donald trump to brexit are the result of disinformation or foreign interference. and as a result people are afraid and they're embracing concept that are totally alien to core american values. we do not have a tradition in this country of outlawing false information or lies or any of those things or outlawing hate s

so we were actually the victim of a disinformation run pugh those people.hocking and appalling that this man who had a position of trust would express no regret about participating in a disinfo op, and this is in the done text, of course, of the other disinformation operations that those same people ran of falsely alerting donald trump had stole the 2016 election by ca lewding with russia. it's horrible people can't trust intelligence agencies not just because of these actions but their refusal to apologize. >> a stunning answer and to build on what mollie said, the answer he gave which was it hasn't been proved false was exactly the defense that many democrats made of the dossier as well. and you would think that leon panetta might be in a position to actually acknowledge the truth here. he's not angling for another job in government. his reputation is secure. so what this tells me is they're never going to give an inch on the whole russia fallacy. >> jeff. >> i think truth matters where you're a democrat or a republican. period. i've said before, i think

number of children that live in single parent homes almost doubled from 1968 to 2017 according to pugh of those kids were living with single family moms. vivek ramaswamy joins us now. good to have you with us today, this is a problem that permeate as lot of different areas. the family, the united states economy, success in education. why have you chosen to make this a part of your campaign? >> martha, it's important to me. people ask me did you grow up in privilege? i didn't grow up in wealth. i grew up with the ultimate privilege of two parents in the house with a focus on education and instilling in us a belief in god. i believe it is only right for every kid in this country to have that opportunity, too. that's part of why i've been able to live the american dream. now, the realities, we have policies in this country in the name of helping families have actually eroded family formation. those the left will point to racial inequality in terms of results, black americans versus other groups or white americans or asian americans, the reality is most of that can be explained by differen

almost a second has happened because they were definitely trying to exterminate jews on that day, a pughurvey found only students age 13 to 17 are unaware of the specific time during which the holocaust took place only 38% knew how much were slaughtered during the lawsuit. we are not educating our kids, brian. >> ainsley: brooklyn bridge yesterday. they shut down the brooklyn bridge. 7,000 pro-palestinian protesters took over the bridge. they were calling for the elimination of the jewish state by any means they said. one lady, maureen edward according to the "new york post" holding a sign that said zionism is terrorism and accusing israelis as being the real killers. she said it's not a question of justified. if you are occupied, you fight back and you do what they did. >> brian: i don't get it. this is a country that has trouble educating its own people about own history. now diving into the palestinian cause when they say that the palestinian cause they just want a state when we know that's not the case? hamas wants to eliminate israel. iran wants to eliminate israel. the states that

hamas has arrange pugh that to be the case it tells you this desperation with worldwide leftist medialegacy media of the world. not just american universities. it's universities in the western world. western civilization. it's not just american media. it's media around the world. for western civilization that has been effectively where this cancer has metastasized. the argument still is they're use to creating reality based on reporting. they will not forgive israel. israel is following the rules. so they need to make up as though israel -- it's living the fake hate crimes we see from people who are desperate to become the victims. >> if they're not victimized and it ruins the narrative they will do it themselves. the media is compliment. the worldwide media. the worldwide academic dynamic and certainly certain governments are still struggling with what they have allowed to enter into their nations and as a result of what they have done with their own government agencies in the push for dei and equity. this is coming down on everyone now. >> joe, this is what you study and deal with e