and you get to a point where timone and pumba are supposed to do a charleston and they do a flamencoance and the whole audience is going -- ole. so spectacular. as soon as you do that, you make it part of that culture. i think the most exciting story about this was in south africa in jo han he is burg, we were casting timone and pumba we cast a africana pum ba and you had two characters who would nevint great with each other because of apartide. and the audience felt it. it happened just by sheer casting. and then the accent and all. different -- it was very, very thrilling and they would mock each other and play with each other. there were many things like that where political and social things have happened in the experience of the lion king going into a different country. >> does commercial successor the potential of commercial success dictate how the show is put together, what goes into the show? >> everybody who is a producer is going to think about the weekly running cost. and the potential of how much money and size of the theater it could make. >> when i did lion king i had n