putin fersteid putin fersteinsky yes, but uh supporters of the russian peace, those who say now let's go to russia, yes, and they, and before the war there was no eurasian union, it was about 10%. yes, in different conditions, ah, mr. oleksiy, i offer eh, actually we have literally eh, hmmm, 7 minutes left to talk about the book of memories in the texts of speeches dedicated to the memory of iryna bekeshkina, this is actually this book, we will also show it separately in the picture. and er and winged sayings because why is it called as long as we are alive i will remind you that the continuation of this phrase er of this aphorism of the brilliant brilliant irina bekeshkina is while we are alive nothing has been decided definitively so er why is this possible for you why and by what this is why this character remains so important and so so bright for the population well, by the way, i would like to say that for the second year in a row, according to the amway version, she is included in the list of the most influential ukrainians of all time, of all time. we are talking about irina pikeshkina first of all. this is absolute honesty against the background of venality. yes, because we know how much we sell political scientists and, unfortunately, sociologists and political experts and public figures are bought. they defected to yanukovych, then they defected to poroshenko, then zelensky, then well, unfortunately , these people are scumbags who personified this crystal honesty, just like ilko kucheriv, who was the founder of this fund and in 2004, it was our fund that i did not work for at that time but he made friends with plus-miss plus churches, it was these three centers in the consortium that withstood the pressure, then there was the testimony of people who worked for the party of regions or puppets who offered a million dollars to paniotta, this is also evidence. well, there are a little less numbers, he calls uh but also the pressure was crazy yes, and many sociologists simply could not resist and they gave falsified results, although, again, they are now present on tv screens and in the mass media and are promoted and so on. so, absolute honesty, a very clear professional position, the struggle for professional standards, she she struggled a lot with all these pseudo sociological offices, and she was aptly named horned hooves, and since then it has been the same as the floor, because everyone says that it is horns and horns and hooves, and she was very clever, they loved her very aptly, aptly well, you quoted here, let's say that ukraine is a unique centaur, where a high level of freedom is combined with a high level of corruption and lawlessness, so, well, it was about uh earlier, time flies for two years, she continues, the main thing is that now ukraine is this is plus freedom minus the law and goes on to say that there are two possible ways to add law to freedom and become a democratic country or take away ukraine's freedom and become an authoritarian state . that we are threatened by autarky, any government has temptations to concentrate something more in their hands, and such temptations will be here, will they become real, well, will they be successful, i think not , again, the practice of ukraine shows this time and time again society every time it becomes more organized more after the maidans now we see this self-organization of society 2 greece moment - this is not a candidate for the european union yes and this is a factor of our internal transformations yes therefore it will be very very difficult to leave this there are threats, but i think we will surrender them, if possible , we have a couple of minutes, let's just say an aphorism about the government, the most terrible government is stupid, even a corrupt one is not such a big evil, yanukovych and his entourage snuck in and watched this about yanukovych, yes, a proposal, a proposal about populism, oh my god, yes and the positions of needs need to be communicated with people and not with a megaphone voice, yes, about the contradictions in the views of ukrainians, this is what we talked about, you know what is interesting, we seem to be unhappy and poor, we do not succeed in anything, we like to complain a lot we are looking at our new year's survey, the question of whether you are happy and answer yes and we have always been interested here that ukrainians always say that ukraine is moving in the wrong direction. and how do you see your future? it is optimistic. i see my own, but now the situation is the first in many years. in such a way that countries look at the future better than their own, and this again says that people see that ukraine is ukraine, ukraine will be ukraine when you talk about your own. well, you understand the problems you are facing, yes. by the way, our survey shows that once again hope prevails among ukrainians, during the maidan, she said that the initiative of public organizations should be the formation of a new maidan, maidan reform, and this is what we are talking about now we say that we are fighting again for a new country, if oh she had another one called, well, one question, we have comfortable cans, it’s possible, phenomenal, everything is radical, i’ll have one more question for you , a drawing so good, the phenomenon of cans because it concerns what ukrainians are doing now . iryna bikishkina, who went to the mountains, and she says that there is such a phenomenon that it is difficult for you to walk, you fall down, what should you do, take a can from a neighbor who also has the same can, transfer it from your backpack to your backpack and you will immediately you will feel relief because you have helped someone, she says that it contradicts the laws of physics, but uh, but this is uh, this is such a kind of psychological phenol, that's what she called the canned phenomenon, and i think that ukrainians, when we take our survey, they just show that it's terrible the war and the ukrainians are not losing optimism i want we have literally two minutes left, i still have a very important question er for you this is er according to my feelings and observations and not only mine yes er this war we are paying a terrible price but we in fact, we acquired a completely new sense of subjectivity for us, we saw ourselves against the background of other nations, and we understood that we are now the moral leaders of the world, we are absolutely our army, how powerful is it, and how much the world admires ukrainians in general, and our true strength. so subjectivity, a new identity, we got rid of it well, it seems to me that the feeling of secondaryness in relation to the former empire of our metropolis . it is an inherent feature of our is it not me after the victory, history never happens, nothing is irreversible, that is, there are black swans that can change something, but in general, i think the trend is absolutely obvious, more i want to say you do you remember that even until february 24, we were told in 2010 and in 2014 that ukraine is not a subject, ukraine is an object, they are dividing us. and then we said, listen, if we became subjects, we would have stopped putin are a subject, we are a subject of politics. because if it were not for the ukrainian people, they would have taken us, captured and divided us, and that was the case before, but now you are absolutely right. this sense of subjectivity is nothing with us anymore. at my level and in the world that's also why i think that everything will be fine and iryna pikeshkina said about herself that she is pathological an optimist although she understood all the problems although she understood all the problems, nothing was idealized and that's why i think we also need to understand this problem, you understand. unfortunately, this is with us for a long time, that it may drag on and there will be victims, but we will win unconditionally. yes, and our mood simply must not be persistent hard work, thank you, thank you, humor helps us. thank you . thank you to everyone who watched us and as always thank you to the armed forces of ukraine for the fact that this conversation could take place glory to