was started by these rabid, nationalistic politicians, volodya zelensky, an inexperienced person, he already has a heavy inheritance got it, here putinften publicly reproaches him that he had the opportunity not to do it and to move away from the policy that they were pursuing. in donbass, in odessa, when they burned our guys, they burned people there in the house of trade unions, it was impossible for him, firstly, he is not a politician, he was not ready for this, because of this he could not move away from this, here poroshenko, putin also reproaches him for this, the three of us were hanging around there, putin, me and poroshenko, so that this would not happen, yes, yes, i understand, and so on, he agreed to everything, and then from this policy on... reconciliation policy he moved away, i told you, for example, i was in sochi meeting with putin, there just at the donbass airport, there a new airport, what 's it called, was built, yes, there was a battle, and a lot of ukrainians died there, they lost that battle, and we just had negotiations with putin in sochi, i was talking to shaigu on the phone then, he told me, he says, call