the checks and pwalz and accountability seems to have evaporated here. and it makes edward snowden feel like the only way he can hold the institution accountable is by disrupting it. and that's -- i think the two major issues raised by the case are one the nature of secrets in the digital edge and what the implications for leadership and the citizenship and the secret balance and the second is the extent to which our institutions are completely unaccountable and that is what -- that frustration with holding these big institutions accountable is to use technology to see how to disrupt them. >> when you look at the affordable care act, for example, and radial connectivity. is the a. c. a. set up for a new world in your view? >> it's a mixed bag. it has these healthcare exchanges which would not have been possible in a pre digital era or -- i at least struggle to imagine how the healthcare exchanges would work pre internet. in many ways it's looking at digital solutions. but in other ways i think that it creates kind of more challenges and may inseven advis