but just two days before the scheduled talks, pyongyang made a provocative move. two short-range ballistic missiles were fired toward the sea of japan. the workers party newspaper on monday showed pictures of kim jong-un and what appears to be a flying missile. top japanese government officials held a national security council meeting on monday to discuss the situation. prime minister shinzo abe and four cabinet members confirmed the delegation in beijing will file a strong protest against pyongyang over the missile launch. and chief cabinet secretary yoshiri suga said the talks will go on. >> translator: it's also an opportunity to talk about security concerns such as missiles and nuclear programs. >> reporter: an expert on north korean politics says he believes officials in pyongyang were well aware of the impact the missile launches would have. >> translator: i think north korean leader anticipated japan's protest, but they want to test japan's determination towards continuing dialogue and observing the bilateral agreement. i think japanese officials should app

authorities in pyongyang have promised to probe the fate of abducted japanese nationals. an official has told nhk the government is prepared to accept japanese investigators at any time. japanese government officials say north korean agents kidnapped at least 17 people in the 1970s and '80s. five of them returned home in 2002. representatives from the two sides reached an agreement last week to find out about the others. the north koreans will also look into other japanese who are missing. the official who spoke to nhk said as part of the agreement, a delegation of japanese investigators will visit north korea. a date has not been set. the official indicated the group would be accepted without any problems. north korean leaders promised six years ago to launch a probe but they failed to follow through. observers say leaders in pyongyang want to rebuild trust by stressing that this time they'll be more transparent. >>> billionaire businessman petro poroshenko will be sworn in saturday as ukraine's new president. and right away he'll face tough challenges. fierce fighting c

japan's top diplomat briefed south korea's ambassador to japan on recent talks between tokyo and pyongyang. foreign minister fumio kishida says he recognizes the importance of japan, south korea and the united states coordinating their policy toward north korea. >> translator: we agree that the u.s., japan, and south korea should foster communication about pending issues, including pyongyang's nuclear and missile development, as well as the abductions of japanese nationals. >> kishida explained his stance on the talks with north korea to the ambassador. observers say officials in seoul and washington are keeping an eye on how the japan/north korea talks are developing. on the agenda was the issue of japanese nationals abducted by north korean agents in the 1970s and '80s. north korea has promised to conduct a full-scale investigation into the fate of the missing japanese. both sides agreed that japan will ease some sanctions from the north after the investigation starts. >>> people in indonesia are getting ready to choose a new president. the two candidates have made their appeal to voters

i also went in to cover the philharmonic, when the new york philharmonic went into 2008 to pyongyang. i went for harpers magazines i went in as a journalist. i have been looking for a chance to actually really see north korea because it's impossible. you can cover from china or south korea. that is one part of the story because these are the people who left, sort of about the people who are living there. finally, i found about this group that was set up by christian missionaries. i applied and i actually got this job in 2011 which happened to be the last six months of kim jong-il's life. >> and you got a job doing what? >> teaching english. >> how controlled was your life on a daily basis because well, north korea is the most controlled state. as the recent u.n. report says, against gravity of the violation is unparalleled to any state in the contemporary world. from the minute you go in you will be followed every second. you give up your phone and passport and all that spent you had to give up your phone which are entered? >> you have absolute nothing on you basically that can connec

the missiles were launched, days after pyongyang tested new precision-guided missiles. japan's foreign miles per hour says the missile test would not affect plans over north korea. the two sides will meet in beijing on 1 july. nearly 200 anti-world cup protesters tried to march to the maracana stadium in braz you will on saturday night. police stopped the demonstrators from reaching the stadium where they had knocked uruguay out of a tournament. protesters are upset about the amount of money brazil spent on the world cup. >>> rockets launched from the gaza strip hit a factory in southern israel. the israeli army says six rockets were fired in total. officials say there were no serious injuries. israel responded by destroying what it called three terror activity sites and other targets in the gaza strip. >> representatives from the u.n. refugee agency met afghan -- african asylum seekers seekers. conditions were called inhumane at the refugee champ. >>> exodus, a reverse exodus. these people want to return to africa. >> we came here seven years ago. they remove us again.

pyongyang promised last month to set up a special committee to probe the abductions. the japanese government says north korean agents kidnapped at least 17 people in the 1970s and '80s. chief cabinet secretary yoshihide suga laid out japan's priorities on wednesday. >> translator: north korea is going to explain to us how the special committee will be formed and who will be in charge. we will scrutinize the information very carefully. >> suga says the japanese delegation will be led by junichi ihara, with the foreign ministry asian. sitting across from him will be song il ho, north korea's envoy for normalizing relations with japan. japanese officials want to use the talks to determine how much authority the committee will actually wield inside the north. they also want to know if the head of north korea's secret police will be part of the committee. and officials say if they're satisfied the committee can carry out an effective investigation, they will consider lifting some sanctions. >>> workers at fukushima daiichi have spent months carrying out painstaking task. t

also criticized north korea's nuclear and ballistic missile programs and they urged officials in pyongyang to comply with their obligations under u.n. security council resolutions. >>> the turmoil in ukraine has dominated much of the g-7's discussions. some participants are trying to strike a balance between pressure and dialogue with russian leader. nhk world's jun yots mo toe reports. >> reporter: g-7 leaders regularly juggle a number of pressing issues. but their dispute over russia and ukraine has proven to be a particularly difficult one. still, they say, they stand united in the face of this crisis. >> translator: we were seven and not eight. we were seven united on the same position, and i stress this. speaking with one voice, explaining the same principles coming up with the same proposals and reaching the same conclusions. and everyone must listen, especially the one who isn't here. >> reporter: it's a clear message for russian president vladimir putin. the leaders were supposed to hold a group of eight meeting with him in sochi. they canceled the summit and put the g-8 on ice to

they expect pyongyang to provide an outline as early as this week including a list of the investigative body. >> translator: we're in the process of arranging with north korean officials how we can receive information about the investigative body. >> kishida told reporters officials will use the information to judge the panel's viability. he said they will then consider whether to lift sanctions. >>> japan's government has decided to provide about $80 million to help evacuees return to their hometowns near the fukushima daiichi power plant. officials at the reconstruction agency have announced a fund will be given to fukushima prefecture and its 16 municipalities. it will be used for designing public rental housing for returning residents, building infrastructure for farming and industrial activities, and other rebuilding projects. >> translator: we expect the fund to help speed up rebuilding efforts in evacuation areas. >> the central government has earmarked about $1.6 billion to help municipalities prepare for the return of residents after evacuation orders are lifted. in april, the

south korea says the missiles were launched days after pyongyang tested what it calls new precision-guidedissiles. >>> japan's foreign minister says the missile tests will not affect plans to hold talk with north korea over the kidnapping of its citizens in the 19 '70s and '80s. they'll meet in the chinese capital on july the 1st. north korea's late leader kim jong-il admitted that 13 japanese from abducted to be trained as spies. five from returned but eight are missing. >>> there was protesters marching to maracana stadium. police detained a number of protesters. they were upset about the amount of money brazil has spent on the world cup. >>> now, a libyan man accused of planning an awe tack on the u.s. -- an attack on the u.s. consulate pleaded not guilty. the raid left the ambassador to libya and three others dead. ahmed abu chattalah has been charged with murder and appeared in a washington court after beeps captured by -- being captured by u.s. special forces in libya. >>> his name is ahmed abu chattalah, the main suspect in an attack on the u.s. mission in benghazi, libya, on septem

but he says they'll only do that if officials in pyongyang start investigating their abductions of japanese nationals. north korean officials promised last month to launch a few investigation. they said they tried to find out what happened to japanese people in the 1970s and '80s. leaders in tokyo said they'll lift three sanctions in return. those sanctions cover travel between japan and north korea, humanitarian port calls by north korean ships, and transfers of money. >> translator: when we've determined that the north koreans have conducted a concrete investigation, we'll lift the announced three sanctions at the same time. >> suga also addressed regulation about the possibility of a visit to north korean ya by prime minister shinzo abe. he said it's too soon to even talk about it. >>> many diners in japan count eel among their favorite food. but they're being warned by experts to conserve the fish. the popular dinner choice is now on the list of endangered species. nhk world's takafumi tadei reports. >> reporter: it's been a long japanese tradition to eat unagi or eel. many people consi

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he relayed pyongyang's promise to conduct a full investigation into the fate of japanese adductees and japan's agreement to ease some sanctions when the probe begins. he also commented on other north korean issues. >> translator: japan and the u.s. have reaffirmed the importance of coordinating policies with south korea, concerning north korea's nuclear and missile programs. japan and the u.s. will continue working to the. >> ihara noted that japan remains firm on pushing for a comprehensive resolution to the abduction issue and missile and nuclear programs. >>> a japanese scientist has been facing global scrutiny over what appeared to be a breakthrough in the study of stem cells. now, two groups of researchers say they've found another contradiction that raises doubts over whether stap cells exist. the groups are the latest to question research by scientists, including haruko obokata of riken institute. her team claimed in january to have found a quick way to create cells that can develop into any type of tissue. they called them stimulus triggered acquisition of pl pluripotency or st

pyongyang says north korea does not appreciate this kind of comedy, though it does admit kim will see the film when it is released in october. >> do we release films to north korea? i guess we must. >> well, they can't watch it, but he will. >> he can do pretty much anything. >>> as can our leader, our dear leader, christina loren, in the microclimate forecast. >> that's right! good morning to you, kris, scott. it's hard to believe we're still in the morning hours, with a temperature of 85 degrees, currently, in santa rosa. taking a live look at the other current temperatures across the bay area, your microclimates definitely showing an appearance at this point. you're at 59 degrees in half moon bay, but here's the deal. all of our bay area cities are running warmer, you're just running 14 degrees warmer than 24 hours ago up in santa rosa, and the same for san martin. you might be wondering why. well, it has everything to do with our wind direction. so, all the cities that have the winds coming off the ocean, it's actually still pretty comfortable. look at what's going on in santa ros

thein stretches to wherever longing for freedom stirs in minskhearts, whether in or damascus or pyongyang. wherever people are willing to do the hard work of building have acy, they will partner in our nations. from the struggles of these citizens, we recall our own struggles. in their faces, we see our own. few see this more clearly than the people of poland. today are the of heirs of solidarity. men and women like you who dared to challenge a bankrupt regime. and when you're peaceful protests were met with an iron fist, poles place flowers in the shipyard. today ukrainians honor their fallen with flowers in independence square. we remember the polish voter who rejoiced to feel the taste of poland again. echoed and savored what she called the taste of real freedom. , and we areountry standing up for justice and freedom." with gratitude for the strongest support of the polish people, she spoke for many ukrainians when she said, "thank you, poland, we hear you and we love you." [applause] same.we can say the thank you, poland. thank you for your courage, thank you for reminding the world t

pyongyang has denounced a move -- a movie about a plot for assassination, calling it an act of war. here is more. >> with american producers, it is a light-hearted satire. to the north korea government, it is an act of war. >> you are entering into the most dangerous country on earth. his people will believe anything he tells them. >> they star as a news team with the opportunity to interview the north korean president. when the c.i.a. find out. they want them to assassinate him. the reviews from north korea are not just two thumbs down. they called it reckless, u.s. provocative insanity, which has produced a gust of hatred and rage. if the u.s. administration llows the showing of the film, a merciless counterreaction will take place. it has produced a string of viral moments. the diplomatic fall-out from this could have serious implications, not the least of which that north korea is presently holding three americans in custody. it has created a cloud burst of free global publicity. north korea's state propaganda machine has added hollywood. "bbc news," washington. >> not liking th

. >>> pyongyang has used detaineds u.s. nationals as diplomatic bargains chips. analysts say authorities may use the three americans to try to have direct talks with washington. >>> the u.s. defense department has released its annual report on china's military and security capabilities. the pentagon says china is using reconnaissance drones and adding warships to its operations in the east china sea. the report said china is gradually increasing its development and use of unmanned aircraft. it said china's spending on unmanned systems might one day outpace that of the u.s. the report said what was probably a chinese drone was observed flying over the east china sea in september 2013. it was the first time an unmanned chinese aircraft have been seen in the area. the department also said china put nine into service last year. it said the ships may be used for operations in shallow waters in the east and south china seas. the report said china may build an additional 20 to 30 such vessels and said it's likely the country will complete its first amphibious assault sh

. >> reporter: pyongyang, today marking the 64th anniversary of the korean war, is known for bluster -- threatening in the past to bomb seoul and launch nuclear strikes on the u.s. but kim yong un is young, aggressive, unpredictable. "the interview hit a north korean note, quote, "it defamed our supreme leadership." the interview is still scheduled for release october 14th. nick watt, abc news, los angeles. >>> now to the headlines coming from the world cup. tomorrow team usa facing off against the powerhouse from germany, but today, everyone's still talking about the player nicknamed the cannibal, accused of biting his rival during a game. will he be allowed back on field? abc's paula faris covering the world cup for us in brazil. >> reporter: luis suarez, one of the world's best, and never one to shy from the spotlight, today attempting to avoid the media from the balcony of his brazilian hotel today. but, the man responsible for the chomp heard round the world maybe not be able to avoid fifa -- soccer's governing body -- who may throw the boot at him. they're investigating this mo

like this and launching missile, there were eight of them seen in a parade about two years ago in pyongyang that came from china and china has agreed to follow the u.n. sanctions against north korea against north korea, so there is little question. the united states strictly question united it's about it and they said they thought they were selling them blogging materials. so there is a lot dual use stuff out there. some of the things that the north koreans have, they built themselves. but there is a lot of tool use stuff that is out there. >> russia to forgive a lot of funds. how much can russia afford to prop up north korea? the mac not much. the reason i think the question is so just because i'm sure most of you realize right up until may team may become the soviet union as it was called back then were providing oil, foodstuff, military equipment, training, everything. electricity for their great. everything for the north koreans. in 1990, the soviets told the north koreans, from now on, from the second lord, anything you get from us, food, oil, electricity, military hardware, you have t

relations between washington and pyongyang have been frozen for more than a year now. there seems to be very little the u.s. can do in trying to influence these incidents. >> it's been reported by reuters there's been a second explosion and second egyptian police officer killed in a blast at cairo's presidential palace. that is to security sources saying a second police officer and a second blast near the president palace in cairo. that was after an original blast where a number of people were injured. we will update you on that as soon as we can. first of all, let's find out what's going on with paribas, a very interesting one. >> yes, it's france's biggest bank is expected to pay a record $9 billion fine for years of dealing with u.s. black listed sued and and iran in a case that has strained ties between paris and washington. regulators are expected to dish out the largest penalty on a foreign bank after a week of negotiations between lawyers at the bank, as well as the u.s. regulators. bnp has a strong enough capital base to handle penalties. the size of the fine t

it happened days after pyongyang tested what it called new precision-guided missiles. japan's foreign minister says the missile test will not affect plans to hold talks with north korea over the kidnapping of its citizens in the 19 '70s, and 1980s. representatives are due to meet on july the 1st. kim jong-il admitted in 2002 that 13 japanese citizens were abducted to be trained as spies. five have been returned, the other eight are missing. >> translation: the talks focused on humanitarian issues, and they will take place, and during a time the platform is forming, it will not benefit north korea. >>> in the indian city of cheppi, more than 100 people are believed to be under the rubble trapped after a tower collapsed. the construction workers were among those killed. 19 are dead. two directors of a construction company have been arrested, that was building the tower. >>> pakistan's army chief has flown to a disputed part of kashmir, marching the second anniversary of an avalanche that killed 140, mostly military. this glacier is claimed by india and pakistan, both hav

. >> reporter: pyongyang marking the 64th anniversary of the korean war, is known for bluster, threatening past to bomb seoul and launch nuclear strikes on the u.s. kim jong-un is young, aggressive, unpredictable. north korea carried out a live fire exercise with cardboard u.s. soldiers for targets. the interview hit a north korean nerve because it "defamed our supreme leadership." unthinkable in a land where kim is seen as a deity. he claims rogen and his collaborators can never escape punishment. the film is still scheduled for october release. >>> up next on abc 7 news at 9:00, a young 49ers fan will never forget this moment. wait until you see his celebration. >>> everything world cup on abc7.com including the daily wrap that gives insight into key plays in the games and breaks down how wins and losses will down how wins and losses will affect the touents. ithe part of us that a littwants to play,on. wants to be mischievous, wants to run free, all you have to do is let it out. find your inner minion only at the despicable me minion mayhem ride at universal studios hollywood. wireleare

. >> pyongyang promised merciless retaliation if the interview is released warning the u.s. government if if doesn't act against the film it would be considered an act of war. interview stars franco and rogen as journalists who landed an interview with kim jong-un. before the interview, the cia asks them to assess nate the leader. earlier north korea in real life said kim will see the film when it's released in october but we don't have word if that will still happen. >> strong words. >>> 6:21. ahead on "today in the bay," chomping the competition, punishment in store for a world cup soccer player accused of biting his opponent and how someone won 900 betting the bite would happen. >>> well, it's the bite seen around the world. uruguay's superstar may get booted from the world cup. >> keep an eye on the scene. you can see luis suarez in white, collided with an italian player. both fall to the ground in pain but a closer look appears to show suarez bite the italian plier's shoulder. suarez facing charges from fifa that could lead to a suspension sidelining him for the rest of

wherever the longing for freedom stirs in human hearts whether in minic or cralkcass or damascus, pyongyang wherever people are willing to do the hard work they lding democracy, will have a partner in our nations. for in the struggles of these citizens we recall our own struggles. in their face wes see our own. and few see this more clearly than the people of poland. the ukrainians of today are the heirs of solidarity. men and women like you who dared to challenge a bankrupt regime. and when your peaceful protests were met with an iron fist poles placed flowers in the ship yard gates. today ukrainians honor their fallen with flowers in independence square. we remember the polish voter who rejoiced to feel the taste of poland again. her voice echos in the protestor who savered what she called a taste of real freedom. i love my country she said and we are standing up for justice and freedom. and with gratitude for the strong support of the polish people she spoke for many ukrainians when she said thank you poland we hear you and we ove you. today we can say the same. thank you, poland. thank

. >> let me just tell you, i was in pyongyang in 2006, and when they told me -- it goes back to i had to pay something like $75,000 in cash for the satellite time we had used or they wouldn't let me leave the country. and i discovered there was no way to make a transaction because of exactly what you had done. >> right. >> we had to go to another diplomatic resource and -- >> we cut north korea out of the financial system. >> a bridge loan or whatever you would call it. >> and ultimately, it led them to come in 2007 to negotiate a follow-on agreement, which at the end of the day was never implemented. so, then the question was, it works on north korea, let's try it on iran. and one thing that i think needs to be said is there are several arrows in this financial sanctions quiver. one is the direct one, which is, you know, freezing people's assets and listing institutions that are laundering funds for terrorists, proliferators. but the other one that stewart levy and hank paulson used so effectively is the indirect reputational risk. you go around -- stewart went around, and hank, to m

pyongyang, itself, used two called jerusalem of the east because it was the center of the presbyterianngelist franklin graham has been there at least once, his father, billy graham, visited at least twice. >> they came back. they went there, the grahams without any trouble. they came back to the united states without any trouble, right? >> they did. billy graham even at least on one occasion did a sermon in north korea at the behest or at least with the blessing of the north korean leader them, ki ee. >> thanks very much. we'll stay on top of this story for our viewers. >>> remember, always follow us on twitter, go ahead and tweet me @wolfblitzer. certainly tweet the show @cnnsitroom. please be sure to join us once again tomorrow right here in "the situation room." always watch us live or dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." >>> now let's step into the "crossfire" with paul begala and s.e. cupp. >> christmas eve for me. tingling with anticipation. i'm going to be up all night because if we're

in the international community to stop pyongyang from acquiring nuclear weapons what lesson should be applied to the situation with i ran moving forward? and what provisions of any in the agreement prevent i ran from outsourcing their nuclear program to another country as was the case with north korea. icu nodding so i will go to you first. c. i'm sure mr. detrani will have something to add to this point as well. one of the reasons i read in my statement that it's very important to have an effective means of monitoring iranian procurement particulaparticula rly if they are going to be allowed to have a peaceful nuclear program as part of whatever agreement emerges is to make sure that in the noise of those procurement efforts that i ran is not able to outsource significant parts of its nuclear weapons development program to other states or to nonstate actors the a.q. khan's of the world and are north korea and to get a good handle on the procurement they are taking because there has been this long track record of i ran looking for various sources throughout the world that could aid it

pyongyang claims they can never escape the stern punishment.. nick watt, abc news, los angeles. >> oh, boy. >> i would like to see it. >> yeah, sure it will be interesting. there could be consequences here. the north is holding three u.s. nationals accusing them of various crimes. technically of course they still remain at war with the south which is a key u.s. ally. >> you think though it is laughable, people think he is crazy there could possibly be repercussions. >> absolutely. >> do you remember in 2004, a comedy where they had his father. jung's father. playing a lonely despot. "team america world police." i thought it was funny. i don't think he did. >> i didn't see it. >> stick with us we'll be back in a minute. >> announcer: this is abc's "world news now," informing insomniacs for two decades. "world news now," informing >>> making news in america this morning -- breaking overnight, dozens of people at a concert, rushed to the hospital. new video of the chaos outside the venue. and what we've learned about the investigation into what ca

exactly what that response would be, gayle, but i wouldn't exactly expect the red carpet treatment in pyongyangany time soon for the two of them. >> sort of an overreaction by the north koreans. >> very extreme. >>> pope francis promised he wouldn't choose sides in this world cup. wondering if he's wearing red, white and blue today. even he -- he -- cannot resist the magic of one of the top players. the evidence next on "cbs this players. the evidence next on "cbs this morning." sleep you need, pm gives yealing helping you fall asleep and stay asleep so your body can heal as you rest. advil pm. for a healing night's sleep. ♪ [ male announcer ] take home one of these char-broil gas grills for just $249 at lowe's. [ male announcer ] take home one of these char-broil gas grills our new flatbread sandwiches may be flat... the flavors, are anything but. so whether it's taste inspired by the freshness of the mediterranean... or the smoky spice of the southwest... or bold, adventurous thai flavors... ...you always get flavor that's anything but flat. and always with chicken raised without antibiotics.

government permits or protect the red carpet treatment in pyongyang. >> no trip to north korea any timeon by the north koreans. >> very extreme. >>> good morning, everyone. we actually did call up our hi- def doppler radar this morning because we had a few raindrops on the rooftops but all that precipitation is now out of here. right now, numbers, 50s and 60s and later today becoming partly cloudy with highs 60s beaches, mid-and high 60s across the bay. 70s peninsula and into our inland areas. going with an outside number today of 84 degrees in the far reaches of the north bay. gradual warming over the weekend and flirting with triple digits monday. >>> pope francis promised he wouldn't choose sides in this world cup. wondering if he's wearing red, white and blue today. even he -- he -- cannot resist the magic of one of the top players. the evidence next on "cbs this morning."pm gives y ealing sleep you need helping you fall asleep and stay asleep so your body can heal as you rest. advil pm. for a healing night's sleep. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] take home one of these char-broil gas gr

officials have testified on capitol hill that china is continuing supply technological assistance to pyongyang in developing its military capabilities. i'm wondering why the united states cannot pressure china enough to stop beijing from doing that in exchange for perhaps delaying a deployment of a northeast asia missile defense system? thanks. >> yeah. until you provided your quid pro quo i was sort of with you. but i mean i don't think we should make our response -- just as we advise the south koreans and japanese, not to make their posture on vis-a-vis the north korean threat contingent on chinese wishes, chinese attitudes. well, you know, it's a mystery to me why neither we nor for that matter the south koreans, who have got a very important relationship with china, why neither of us can get the chinese to do more of the right things and to stop doing some of the wrong things vis-a-vis the northern regime. after all, chinese statements, public statements, and what we know about chinese attitudes, suggests that they are really kind of fed up with the north korean regime and while they might

and international community to stop pyongyang from acquiring nuclear weapons, what lessons should be applied to the situation with iran moving forward and what provisions, if any, in the agreement prevent iran from outsourcing their nuclear program to another country as was in the case with north korea? i see you nodding, mr. lauder. so i'll go to you first if you'd like. >> i'll start. i'm sure ambassador detrani will have something to add to this point, as well. one of the reasons why i argued in my statement that it's very important to have an effective means of monitoring iranian procurement particularly if they're going to be allowed to have a peaceful nuclear program as part of whatever agreement emerges, is to make sure that in the noise of those procurement efforts that iran is not able to outsource significant parts of its nuclear weapons development program to other states or to nonstate arcs, the a.q. khans of the world, the states like korea and also to get a good handle on what procurement that they're taking. because there has been this long track record of iran looking

. >> i was in pyongyang in 2006 and when they told me that i had to pay something like $75,000 in cash for the satellite tyke we had used or they wouldn't let me leave the country. i discovered that there was no way to make a transaction because of exactly what you had done. we had go to another diplomatic resource. >> we cut north korea out of the financial -- >> whatever you call it. >> and ultimately led them to come in 2007 to negotiate a following agreement which in the end of the day was never implemented. so the question was, it works in north korea, let's try it in iran. one thing that needs to be said is there are several arrows in this financial sanctions givqui. one is the direct one, freezing people's assets and listing institutions that are laundering funds. the other one that stewart levy and hank polson used so effectively is when they went around to three, four dozen banks and financial institutions in europe and said, you know, you don't really want to be dealing with these iranian bankance dealing with the irjc because they're funding terrorists activity and prolifera

. >> i was in pyongyang in 2006, and when they told me ipsos facto that i had to pay something like $70,000 in cash for the satellite time we had used or they wouldn't let me use the country, and i discovered there was no way to make a transaction because of exactly what you had said. we had to go to another diplomatic resource, and -- >> we cut north korea out of the -- >> whatever you call it. >> and ultimately it led them to come in 2007 to negotiate a follow-up agreement which at the end of the day was never implemented. then it's let's try another iran. one thing that i think needs to be said is -- but the other one that stewart levy and hank paulson used so effectively is the indirect reputational risk. banks and financial institutions in europe and said, you know, you don't really want to be dealing with these iranian banks and you don't want to really be dealing with the irgc because they're actually funding terrorist activity and proliferation activity, and it's going to become public, and your people and your depositors aren't going to like it. they're a wonderful tool because the

in the international community to stop pyongyang from acquiring nuclear weapons what lesson should be applied to the situation with i ran moving forward? and what provisions of any in the agreement prevent i ran from outsourcing their nuclear program to another country as was the case with north korea. icu nodding so i will go to you first. c. i'm sure mr. detrani will have something to add to this point as well. one of the reasons i read in my statement that it's very important to have an effective means of monitoring iranian procurement particulaparticula rly if they are going to be allowed to have a peaceful nuclear program as part of whatever agreement emerges is to make sure that in the noise of those procurement efforts that i ran is not able to outsource significant parts of its nuclear weapons development program to other states or to nonstate actors the a.q. khan's of the world and are north korea and to get a good handle on the procurement they are taking because there has been this long track record of i ran looking for various sources throughout the world that could aid it

firms such as hewlett packard and ralph the read have been found to contain traces of gold from pyongyang and that's illegal any exports from the secretive communist country of prohibited for u.s. companies to use it emerged that the contraband gold was getting into the supply chain after firms were asked to detail the sources of their imported materials under the american consumer protection act let's talk about this now john feffer is joining me live he's a co-director of foreign policy in focus at the institute for policy studies either john thanks being with us i was his goal getting into the system that. was probably going in through subcontractors my guess is from china there are a number of chinese firms that are operating inside north korea and of course are importing material from north korea to their firms in china that are operating in and they subcontract to i.b.m. packard ralph the round in the like they just get this straight this is being done purposely or did virtually. inadvertently and in fact we have to be clear about half of the firms made a mistake and they're actuall