today we have political scientist pyotr petrovsky good afternoon, pyotr, we are glad to see you. uh, usually after the belly, fluttering topics one of them, uh, at the end of last week , the city court of minsk sentenced marina zolotova and lyudmila chekina to 12 years in prison. they led the well-known publication tutbai, what you say is harsh, rightly hard to judge, because he was not an expert on the case unfamiliar. that's how it is with the materials of this case, but i can say by studying this film, which was a notebook the company provided for viewing to its viewers. i would even say that a rather mild sentence to renovate a simple reason, because the motive of their activities. they are simple some kind of sabotage, but the real goal is to participate in an attempted coup. let's say this frankly, because these are the same participants in this whole crime that were interviewed. in the film, they directly said that the same gold called for a clear choice of nights who side and used political motives. e illegal anti-state struggle. by the way, we have. let's watch a short e