in libya calm -- in libya, qaddafi's son was due at a pretrial hearing in tripoli today.ere were doubts whether his captors would allow him to attend. he and the former spy chief are facing charges over alleged crimes committed during qaddafi's 42 years in power. if found guilty, they could face the death penalty. >> once painted as a reformer, he became his father's most vocal champion. >> is our country. it is our people. we live and die here. >> he was arrested in november of 2011 months after qaddafi's death. he is accused of murder, torture, and other crimes committed while he helped coordinate the violent torture of protesters. the intelligence chief was entrusted with the dark side of the libyan spying operation. he is accused of masterminding the 1998 -- 1988 lockerbie bombing. he oversaw years of torture, murder, and oppression as head of the secret police. the two men are charged with crimes related to could doff the's four decade 00 -- could doff the's 0-- qaddafi's four decade long rule. libyan officials are anxious to show that the central government is in co

but many of the survivors of qaddafi's rule wants revenge. al jazeera. >> tourism is one of mexico's has been under hard wort weathe. huge men we will has landed on coast and threatens to make situation worse. we go to mexico where government is trying to reach its people cut off by the floodwaters. >> reporter: desperate for help, many have been stranded for days. many have gone without food or drinking water since severe flooding left them homeless. government-provided rations are a lifeline, but people say it's not enough. >> we haven't eaten since it started raining. the children are sick. >> reporter: lucky to get his disabled daughter oh out of house in time. >> look at my house now, the water took everything. the bed, fridge, everything, we're homeless now. >> reporter: more than a million people were affected by two tropical storms that slammed into mexico last weekend. worst hit where more than 40 people have died. in some areas two months worth of rain fell in just two days. thousands have been forced to seek refuge in acapulco. her

. >>> qaddafi's regime on trial.hey're due back in court. >>> and at least 80 people are dead in mexico after a blast of two powerful storms. one of which is now a hurricane. >> we begin in egypt where the media there says that 14 people have been arrested, and one police officer has been killed in an operation o on the outskis of cairo. security force versus been exchanging fire in giza. we know go to our correspondent who is in cairo for security reasons. can you you give us a picture what have is happening and give us the latest? >> reporter: about an hour ago they are sending reinforcements. what is going on a fairly large scale operation starting at 3:00 a.m. the police and the military out there for quite some time on the streets. and they have been there since the middle of august. in the aftermath the mobs that stormed the police stations, killed 11 police officers. the police and army want to retake it. they are being picked off by niners and there have been a number of people arrested. the police and army h

qaddafi.glad is he out of there libya has a chance now. >> right now no one can get on that. the point i'm making is assad to me, it's not separate when you have got the terrorists not jihadists, tears on the other side who we are now supplying and if we bomb we are not supplying them. >> supply the rebels supplying al qaeda. >> not supplying. this week they announced that some groups are going to get it. >> last two weeks. they assure us that the groups that are getting the guns are not going to be al qaeda. >> and w.m.d. in iraq. >> >> bill: if i come over to your side and a lot of people agree to you are watching tonight then i become an isolationist. i become a person who says whatever they do in syria i'm going to let them do. i'm not comfortable with that but convince me that i should be. >> first of all, i don't think we are being isolationists. i think we are selective. it has to be after this amount of time in war and consider going at a third war. >> if assad used gas again, would yo

the daughter of one of the most reviled members of qaddafi's security apparatus was abducted in tripoli monday. the japanese government getting ready to tackle the surge of radioactivity detected at fukushima powerplant. they plan to upgrade water treatment and build a wall of frozen earth around the broken reactors. it was once the world largest mobilephone maker but no kia sold the mobile division to microsoft for 5 billion euros. half of the staff will transfer to microsoft. the pre-smartphone is but no kia --nokia selling its mobile device unit two microsoft in an all cash deal worth 5.4 billion euros. to theame late smartphone market and struggled. it is one of the biggest maker of low end phones but sales have dropped precipitously. second-quarter figures this year are down 24%, with losses of 227 million euros for the quarter. they will refocus on network infrastructure and services. >> following this transaction, nokia's financial situation expected to be stronger and earnings profile significantly improved. >> as for microsoft, the windows phone system is trailing the google an

in the 80ses could who forget qaddafi front page, hot for spring, moo-moo mannia.r in the 70s pol pot's misconnections page cambodian paranoid genocideo lover seeks educated city dweller for long walks, beautiful sunsets, no fatties. (cheers and applause) >> stephen: and the thing itself is a piece of crap. basically saying blah, blah, blah, don't attack our buddies in syria, the world wouldn't like it, it might be bad for you. but what really scrambled my fabrege egg is how putin ends it by questioning the one thing i liked about obama's syria speech. putin writes, i would rather disagree with the case he made on american exceptionalism. facing that the united states policy is what makes america different, it's what makes us exceptional it is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional. [bleep] you. (cheers and applause) vlad! thinking you are exceptional. thinking are you exceptional is not extremely dangerous. it's exceptionally dangerous. folks, i was on the fence before this but now it's clear we've got to bomb syria. i mean massiv

i asked him about that i said you saw what happened to qaddafi, what happened in tunesia, in egypt. will say and he argues in this conversation, he's been able to prosecute this war for two and a half years because he has the support of the syrian people. charlie rose, we can't wait to see more tomorrow morning and tomorrow evening, thank you. >> thanks, jeff. >> jeff: and you can see extended portions of charl yee rose's interview with syrian president assad first thing tomorrow on cbs this morning. >> in london today secretary of state john kerry continued his effort to build international support for u.s. strikes on sirria. he offered his first comment on assad's remarks. margaret brennan is traveling with the secretary r9 secretary kerry dismissed assad's denials and said the evidence speaks for itself. earlier today in paris, the secretary made the case to arab leaders that they should support a u.s. lead strike on the assad regime. >> he has one of the largest stocks of chemical weapons in the world and at the moment he has no intention of really negotiating. so it is certain

reporter: for 60 years this is where world leaders made their speeches like kennedy, reagan, arafat, qaddafi and mandela were all heard in this building. now there are likely to be calls not just for the modern indication of u.n. buildings but of the whole system. when the united nations was first set up in the immediate aftermath of world war ii the main decisive power was given to the u.n. security council. it has 15 members but only five of them are permanent. only five have the veto. those five are the countries that were on the winning side when the war ended. >> the world, things are changing, and it should rise to the occasion. the system that was developed at the time was a good one, but over the years things have changed, and those realities should be incorporated. >> reporter: the u.n. system works when the five major powers are in agreement. but when they disagree there is deadlock. for two and a half years there has been no progress at all on syria while over 100,000 people have died. it shows all the united nations that exist in the system. one of those voices is a former u.k. d

the qaddafi government was being attacked by so-called rebels. people that we don't know very much about some of which apparently were fighting against the united states in iraq recently. so these rebels are not exactly democracy builders, although some have reputations internationally for trying to work things out. i think you know, we need to define when we have security threats to the united states. libya was not one of them. and even if one would like to go about the world trying to prevent the killing of civilians or other persons by cruel leaders, that is going to be beyond our foreign policy portfolio, i believe, for some time to come. >> rose: so you think we should do nothing with respect to what is happening in syria? >> i agree that we should not be involved in a war. we should not be involved in trying to get the united nations to pass a resolution which we did in the case of libya, or looking to at rab league or anybody else for that matter. i think that our diplomacy to put pressure upon the prime minister or president mr. assad is

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qaddafi, who wanted to rid his weapons and allowed inspections, it took him eight years. after he was driven out of office and killed, we discovered a bunker that he had in the vehicle with tons of chemical weapons. do you imagine us on will not retain an arsenal? honestly? not a chance in hell that will happen. this is a farce. the goal that everyone signed onto i administration, assad must go. assad is not going anywhere. fact, he will be locked in because the russians will protect him. >> i think it is a reasonable outcome so far. it is ugly and may not be what we would like to see in the long run. i do want to point out, however, that we said we would arm the moderate syrian forces. we have not really done that yet. the suite, al qaeda forces eight their breakfast, lunch, and dinner in a couple of big battles. --we are not capable careful, it will be an al qaeda outpost. >> the russians have an interest in continuing the weapons. if al qaeda gets them, they will make their way to the chechens. russia has a national security interest in containing that. became a means

weapons convention has never used their chemical weapons again, although i do think they found that qaddafi had a little secret stash of chemical weapons some place. and frankly it's quite easy, i believe, to rezute -- reconstitute your weapons. it's not like building a nuclear bottom i find that so eastern couraging though. he is not going to launch any chemical attacks while the u.n. and others are trying to get him to put all -- >> that's the other argument. the white house and administration are making the argument that a long, protracted, annoying, difficult negotiation is actually good because during that at least there is a deterrent effect. >> at the same time, that guarantees that assad stays in power and -- >> delay is its own thing. assad is an interesting character in all of this, isn't he, jane -- james? you wrote a really interesting profile of him. >> he is. he's someone who has been underestimated since he came to power. he puts on that western suit and mournful morticians' gaze and people think -- keep thinking he can be had and he keeps surprising people. he's a master of

international inspectors said they got rid of all their weapons only for find out after the fall of qaddafiey hadn't. an acknowledgment from the white says says it will take years but say they will know sooner if it's likely to happen. >> this is a process that will take a certain amount of time. but it needs to be credible. it needs to be verifiable. and we will work with our allies and partners to test whether or not that can be be achieved. the one thing the a bomb a administration has avoided saying is how much time they are willing to give the idea of diplomacy. we should have a much better idea after the meeting in geneva of a possible time frame. al jazerra, washington. >> a group of u.s. military veteran as received in new york city for the 9/11 ceremonies after a 1600-mile jet ski journey from key west, florida. their trip began as a fundraising project and a way for commemorate the 12th anniversary of the attacks. but as we report, it turned in to much more. >> reporter: they are considered elite combat veterans some wounded in action while serving in iraq and afghanistan. six day

president regan had a several hours or whatever effort to send the message to qaddafi in the wake i think of pan-103 and other terrorist activities and other times people engaged in making it clear that you have to draw a line and there are consequences for actions when people step over those lines. if you don't draw the lines and the civilized world is not prepared to enforce those lines, you are giving complete license to people to do whatever they want and to feel that they can do so with impunity. if you want to send iran and hezbollah and assad a congratulations message do what you want and say don't do anything. we believe that is dangerous and we will face this down the road in some more significant way if we are not prepared to take some kind of a stand now. so that's our argument. it's not that i know better or someone knows better. it's an argument that we believe is based on fact, on evidence, on history, and we ask people to take a close look at it and make their own judgments. >> one more question from the american media. >> yes, the question for mr. secretary, sir, now that

unlike qaddafi, assad did not renounce his weapons of mass destruction. he actually used them. so the strategic tactic here is very different from libya. whencee -- here if assad it is a triumph for iran and hezbollah with the potential of destabilizing the gulf and the whole region. if assad loses but is replaced --extremists like almost run that would be a failure. the key is to have moderate groups of opposition be sufficiently strong to be able to ultimately claim control of syria and give us a reasonable shot, not a guarantee, a reasonable shot at controlling that country and reserving some kind of peace for it and its neighbors. again, superficially to very similar looking situations. i would say from a strategic standpoint, very different in significance the united states. that of course has become all the more emphasized by what is going on right now, where the president has declared and the secretary of state has declared that there is unequivocal evidence that chemical weapons have been used on a significant scale biocides, notwithstanding warnings. failing to respond

should have been easier to deal with the libyans since they were the government that followed the qaddafi out. go ahead, charles. >> the reason we are explaining these resources in kenya is, a, kenya is a strong ally in the war on terror and it is the major army in somalia suppressing al-shabaab. we know there are young somalia-americans who have gone to somalia and learn the terrorism trade. since they are americans they can slip back into the united states and i think the reason they are looking so hard is it doesn't matter if they were at the mall or not, but connections for those who could return, that would be like the brothers -- the chechen brothers in boston. it is not like 9/11 and people from the outside. hitting a mall is not that hard. it is a soft target. i'm surprised it hasn't happened since 9/11. they will go after the softer targets so it could be a real threat. >> on that happy note, that's it for the panel. stay tuned for an exciting day at the u.n. al shaw bar >> finally tonight. it has been a busy month in new york city. first fashion week anvow world leaders are gath

whatever happened to qaddafi? a radical islamist extremist part of the opposition that they are really just like you and me wanting to live in peace and dignity and freedom. anyway. he didn't say a similar example outside of israel and the middle east of a democracy, peace and freedom being enjoyed by folks like us. interestingly he didn't even try to explain how to fix various state and russia's president came to be the principal players in resolving the syrian problem. the time he finished it was clear mr. obama had given up any pretense of logic or for that matter caring for the seven ultimatums or the so-called red lines he and his administration delivered ovethe past year. seconseconded last line is simpy amazing. that second to last line reads with humility but with resolve let us never lose sightf that esessential truth. as you analyze the sender grap d paragraph, he is referring to american taking action, but the declarative sentence on the outset is this. america is not the worlds policeman. that essentia

the words from figures like kennedy, reagan, qaddafi, mandela, were all heard in this room. now it's closed for renovation. this is where the meeting will take place, a conference room converted into an u.n. chamber where there is likely to be calls not just u.n. building but the whole system. when the united nations was first set up in the aftermath of world war ii the main decisive power was given to the u.n. security council. it has 15 members but only five are permanent. only five have the veto. those five are the countries that were on the winning side when the war ended. >> ththings have been changing, and it should rise to the occasion. the system that was set up at the time was a good one, but over the he years those things have changed. >> the u.n. system works when the five major powers are in agreement. but when they disagree there is bed lock. for two and a half years there has been no progress at all on syria while over 100,000 people have died. it shows all the flaws that exist in the system. one of those voices is a former u.k. diplomat who now advises the syr

muammar qaddafi survived and admitted his involvement in the pan am plane explosion in scotland. officials ordered an attack in a factory from sudan. the radical group attacked, followed by the deadly september attacks in 2001. these are incidents weighing on this administration's strategy which right now has no time line. >> the rationale for the military response the president has requested is as powerful today and will be as powerful, if not more powerful, each day. >> some lawmakers say we can keep u.s. national security strong if an attack is done correctly and with proper international cooperation. >> every time the united states has acted stkpaoeu civilly there is -- decisively there is no retaliation. >> while many of these lawmakers are outspoken for a full debate before any u.s. action is taking place that doesn't mean they are on board with an attack. >> a head-on crash kills six people, including two children, in rural northwestern pennsylvania. this is what is left of the vehicles involved. police say the s.u.v. crossed the center line. the driver's 12-year-old daugh

in 2011 he helped marshall 21 countries to go after qaddafi. now should we go after assad? it has not even been over two years and nobody has our back as we try to cover theirs? what does that say about us? the russian president who toys withus over a spy who wants we want back but he will not give back. and a military which we have given millions reinvesting its interest with us. a saudi government assuring egypt they have their back in case the money stops flowing from us. the chinese government blasting our debt and investing le in us. a german chancellor who mocks our ways. a french prime minister who mocks us for being inconsistent. canadians who say we have abandoned them on a pipeline and we wonder why our coalition looks like a pipe dream. maybe it is because we're out of ideas, maybe it is because were out of excuses, maybe it is because we're out of money. i don't know. beggars cannot be choosers but they can be losers. i hate to break it to you, we look like losers. unable to control our government. all bureaucracies on the brink of shutting down. abusive agencie

that morphed into killing qaddafi. i am second to no one in saying that dorothy was a bad man who deserved any bad thing that happened to him -- that qaddafi was a bad man. the implications in removing him from libya. he decided he was going to give up his weapons of mass disruption program and begin to cooperate with the western world. he did he do that because he had an epiphany? no. he got scared in what he saw in iraq and got afraid he would become a victim. he surrendered in advance. was he someone who was in fact making progress towards reducing his program and cooperating? there was some forward movement. what was the strategic implication every moving him and doing it with the condition that we were not going as western powers and put boots on the ground and stabilize the country? there were a couple of things that emerged. we lost control of some of the weapons that he had, which are still out and about in several parts of the world. when he fell, his mercenaries began to move south. they began to connect up w

qaddafi has been killed and elections have taken place. in libya, you are in a place where there are thanks of weapons everywhere. it is not a real state. it was aeries of tribes. and, ther therefore, if you str, okay, but afterwards you say that is not my problem. it is difficulties and you have the difficulties you have. today we met in new york the prime minister of libya, and we are following that with great care. there are growing groups of terrorists. all of us democracies have to deal with that. therefore the mistake has not been not to intervene but the mistake has been, as i said, not to have a follow-up of the situation. >> rose: tell me what is the statatn the ground today where france played an important role in mali. >> mali has been a tremendous success, i must say. you must bear in mind that at the beginning of january this year, the terrorist groups were 2020ilometers, and the president of mali called on the phone, and i said to him, "mr. president, i ask your help, military help." otherwise more will be dead and the terror

even qaddafi who was some kind of clown, he was not as bad as this.see the shelling of the areas could i invite you to come with me if you want to. >> you have said this before, we have had a statement from the international red cross, denouncing the fact that they are not getting access to the wounded on either side. thursday's edition of the french newspaper will be showing pictures of government soldiers executed. the problem we are having again is with the sudden attention put on syria, people are realizing that you have a fragmented opposition, and there are bad guys on both sides. >> it is a fragmented opposition definitely. if you say there are bad guys in both sides, it means there are 10 here and 10 there. i do not believe that is the case. there's maybe be one bad guy for 10 on the other side. there is one bad guy who doesn't have airplanes, scud missiles. these are terrible. you cannot imagine what it does on the ground. we have to be careful about this. when we talk about a civil war we imagine both sides are the same. it is not at all the

white house did not seek approval from congress two years ago before launching cruise missile at the qaddafi we relying on december democrad republican help to take action, the president is taking a huge political risk. administration officials acknowledge a defeat in congress would undermine the president's credibility and that is of his top officials including secretary of state john kerry could t* could also turn him in to an early lame duck by signaling to both parties his ability to move his agenda forward is gone even on what he calls a moral immaterial tear pitch. a win would giver the obama administration. the president urged lawmakers to put politics aside. >> i ask you members of congress to consider that some things are more important than partisan givens or the politics of the moment. >> reporter: congress could start as early as september the ninth. >> in the u.s. antiwar protesters marched everybody as president obama made his president obama made his statement at the white house. >> reporter: the threat of a u.s. attack on syria brought protesters out from coast to coast. hund

look, we warn you when you entered into libya that that you don't know that they were waiting for qaddafi to fall and now you you see, now we tell you -- >> rose: that's what they said to you? >> now we tell you and convey to everyone to jerusalem it's true there are some responsible people within the opposition but there is also al nusra so and you don't know at what point they will take over. who will root them out once they take over in fact i should tell you about the russians. i think that putin showed a kind of down to earth judgment, a kind of strategic clarity and consistency. he is determined to make sure that what happened to mubarak would not happen to his client. and he see there is's a lesson in it and basically there's no symmetry between their provisions of weapons to a government which is the end of the u.n. and our professional weapons. and he even said that you know you israelis and other people not to bring 300 to iran or to damascus and we do not get orders from anyone but as you can see they're not yet there but you can see that a murder deployed an extremely sophisti

we rehearsed it and while we were doing it the big question was not are they going to assassinate qaddafi, the big question is what happens next. that is the crucial question in jewel i can't say caesar. >> rose: that's the yes in syria. >> exactly. where is the play has a reputation for being a dying fall after caesar is assassinated. the one thing we know is that caesar will be assassinated. it's the single perhaps most famous fact of the pagan world, i guess. and so the big urgent question is what's happened next. so that the african setting i hope has allowed us to illuminate that. >> rose: this is what you said. "i don't want to wade in as a gay white middle-class director in his middle age and go "jewel i can't say caesar should be done in an african context!" >> (laughs) well, exactly. i wanted to test it out with my peers. we've got great, great classical actors who happen to be black in the u.k. now. 50 years ago the first black actor appeared in stratford, it was an actor called edrick connor in a production of pericles. following year, 1959, paul robeson came to play "othello."