qaddafi sent security forces into the main square of the university and erected gallows, 11 gallows to hang to the death 11 students. their alleged crime, knowing about or participating in the writing of anti- qaddafi slogans on the wall. that is pretty dire and ugly. things turned. if we don't have a free press and if we are

qaddafi sent security forces into the main square of the university and erected gallows, 11 gallows to hang to the death 11 students. their alleged crime, knowing about or participating in the writing of anti- qaddafi slogans on the wall. that is pretty dire and ugly. things turned. if we don't have a free press and if we are not allowed to practice the first amendment, we could become victims of that darkness. >> thank you bob. [applause]. i going to stay and sign some books now? >> yes, absolutely. thank you. >> a book tv is on instagram, follow us for publishing news, scheduling updates and behind the scenes pictures and videos. instagram.com/book -underscore tv. >> ronald numbers, did isaac newton discovered gravity. >> yes he did. >> but he did not discover it from being hit on the head with a falling apple. and that is the story that has circulated for centuries, that that dramatic episode in the garden triggered his thinking about gravity. he wondered wondered why does the apple fall straight down. it makes a great story. a friend of his started circulating it, it is conceivable

gaddafi, we made an agreement with him about qaddafi. what did we do? we broke that agreement and that resulted in order to have the alternative, the non- qaddafi, non- islamic alternative in power. did that make it any better question i know. half of libya is controlled by people who want to murder us because they are radical muslims. had we been working with the russians all along in good faith, i believe the situation in the middle east would have been different. i think it would've been better, more stable and let me just note that i can remember the charges, the monstrous charges against us in iraq. how horrible it was that our troops were murdering people by the thousands. most of those reports were false and wrong. they were lysed by people who wanted to achieve a political and by claiming that we were massacring people intentionally in iraq. i don't know, is it possible that some of these reports that we are getting that asad is a murderous dictator, but some of the magnitude of his oppression and murder of his own people might be exaggerated to

the deposing of omar qaddafi. >> it's not just about getting rid of a single dictator. it is about understanding that the secondary and third consequences that fall next. >> just because we are involved and we have a strategy does not mean that we are going to be able to did take the outcome. >> these are american soldiers and we failed them when we felt to take into account what happens after a dictator falls. >> she was chastised for impugning integrity after he claimed her rebuttal with wall street was not good enough. and there was also some back- and-forth between the two over federal regulation of banks. but from what i saw tonight, i did not see anyone stumble, no major gaps and they pretty much had a status quo evening. >> no big wave enough to knock anybody? >> i don't see anything that occurred tonight. hillary clinton has run off to a big lead because she has reinsured her supporters that she has what it takes to handle this business. bernie sanders continues to excite his supporters. his problem is, they are just not enough of them to overtake her and i don'

saddam hussein is ge ther qaddafi is gone. how different in terms of diplomacy do younkut havi intiae figureheads in dealing with so oe issues ms. al: it is very different. they were dictators. they did not care about their own populatis. whs different is the rise of what we -- of what our nonstate actors. some of them terrorist groups. some of them rebel groups that are not under the control of any authority and makingrdo figureutitwh to deal. i read this every day. whose side, you ne t that is the part tha it ier it is messy in so many ws. some of it is as a result of having had authoritarian dictators who suppreny organizefo of discussion or having any oppositn. josh: not asking you to knock anybody. as you watch this unfold, you must have opinions whe y think this is the time i would call this person. is there anything you wouldo differeny? msbr: part of it is nobody gets a cleasl when they come in. i think president obama h a hard job and secretary clinton was working with that al i terms of what was left from the war in

there is no question of -- so was qaddafi. i had my own dealings with each of them.t i do want to say they were in many ways neighborhood woollies. that is, they tormented their immediate environment. but they were not wedded it to a they tormented their immediate environment, but they were not wedded to a larger goal. even though hamas is sunni, the militant sunnis led by isis, they had a larger goal in mind. not merely the conquest of the middle east, it is the conquest of the world. it is unbelievable. people do not believe that. they do not believe it is forible to have this quest a caliphate in the me first century, but that is exactly what is guiding them. threatain this larger present 2, that would islam extent, each one of them seeking to arm themselves with weapons of mass death. chemical weapons, nuclear weapons, that this is a formidable threat to our world. if i had to categorize the threats, i would say these are the larger threat. it does not mean you have to form alliances with secular dictatorships, in means you have to categorize what is the larger t

. >> reporter: time and ethnic fighting in southern libya have increased since muammar qaddafi was toppled. rivalry and trade routes have contributed to the identifying. unemployment is high and the area is largely under developed. southern libya has a complex tribal and social mix, it's home to african arab and [ inaudible ] trikes. some of them extend in to neighboring countries. libya has many problems. there has been trouble struggles between two parliament. the united nations is trying to broker a national unity deal. the deal in doha could be a step towards that goal. al jazeera, doha. >>> now, the u.s. secretary of state john kerry is meeting with the israeli prime hundredster benjamin netanyahu today. carey is in the region to help to tried to end the recent waves of violence. since the beginning of october, 92 palestinians and 16 israelis have been killed imtiaz tyab is live for us in west jerusalem. mr. kerry will try to bring down the temperature here. how will he achieve it? >> reporter: that's a very good question. a question many here in israel and indeed in the occupied pal

so muammar qaddafi was toppled in 2011 there has been more tribal rivalry and violence over the struggling of trade routes. >>> a 16-year-old palestinian girl has been shot dead. she tried to stab a man in a mark. the pair are thought to have attacked a 70-year-old palestinian with a pair of is a soars after my staying him for an israeli jew. in a separate i want defense a palestinian man has been shot dead eight petrol station in the occupied west bank, police say he stabbed an isreali man who died immediately and also injured a woman. >>> nigeria's government is appealing to its citizens to report to corruption. the country's president has made tackling graft in the oil sector his top priority. nearly $30 billion has been stolen over the last three years. a report now there abuja on what's being done to lean up the industry. >> reporter: the president promised voters he would fight corruption in the oil industry before he was elect ed in march. billions of dollars have been lost in the sector in the past three years, most it have by the government-run oil company the nigerian national pe

thing, they actually they use their financial muscle, oil muscle in order to push the west to remove qaddafi from power. they succeeded to do for. but, i believe now there is the change of the american strategy. they realize that they cannot fight the war of saudi arabia. they cannot be the guard dogs of saudi arabia. i think president obama was aware of this. and when he interviewed with new york times he should clearly, okay we can can protect you from iran but the major, you have to actually look at your own people. young people who are unemployed, who are frustrated, who would like to have their share of power. who would like to participate in the protests. so, i believe now there's some sort of awareness in the united states. saudi arabia wanted american government to fight islamic state in iraq and syria. boots on the ground. but obama said no, we cannot do it. we did it and iraq and look what happened. now, yesterday president obama said we are not going to send troops on the ground and i believe he is absolutely correct this time. >> their reports the saudi ruler is ill and there is

and the ousting of qaddafi in libya which gave isis the forum to grow. >> this is what people gloss over. she is not worried about all naight moderate muslims, she is worried about alienating muslim voters. when you get to the meaft it, we are going to fight isis but work against the other two forces fighting isis, russia and the assad regime. if our goal is to fight isis why don't we make common cause in this. there are a lot of republicans who take the same position. it doesn't make sense. it's not very smart. andrea: take us into the find, julie, of the hawkish liberal which is a scary place as tucker outlined. the progressiv progressive hawkl who wants to put boots on the ground. julie: this is way would love from anybody including secretary clinton. i would love for somebody to explain to me as tucker just alluded to how we'll have a no-fly zone without startinged world war iii. and let us keep our ally assad which is what the russians will say. we are not willing to concede al-assad should stay. nobody has the courage to look the american people in the eye. we have had common cause

the fall of the islamic state around him, to be on the run and perhaps be pulled out of a hole like qaddafiibya and given a similar type of justice from syrians as qualify. >> court of law to see justice served versus the summary execution by way of predator drone. >> sure. it would have been good to make him face down the families of his victims and to learn what we could from him but it was always unlikely that it would be possible to take him alive. i mean, the u.s. couldn't even rescue the hostages from raqqa unlikely they could have taken i didn't head john into custody. >> do you feel more should have been?1 done and this is really too little too late? >> absolutely more should have been done to rescue the hostages. the death of jihad john is not going to bring my friends back and it is too little too it late. >> what are your reflections when you see these attacks in paris wide scale attacks and violence that occurred. >> a tragedy but one that is likely to be repeated. it is likely there will be copycat attacks in weeks and months. isis has made it very clear that they want to launc

she spent one year under qaddafi's protection in libya.lived out the remainder of his days under the royal family's protection. he kept having kids. i think almost until the very end. i believe the children is born in 1948 and the last one in the mid 1990's. that is the span of his children. not, --live it or believe it or not he seemed to , have been a dad to his brood, more like an army. they called him big daddy. he was jolly and fun loving. the kids were a mixed bag, as you might imagine. the kids where a mixed bag. brian: jafar is being interviewed. it is in english. you have to pay attention to what he says about his father. >> my father was a very mothering individual. the only example of him is obama. children who have lived with their mother have an incredibly sensitive persona around their children of progeny. today i find negatives talked about him. but, right then there was a caring and the mothering and the love. he was strict. >> as any father should be. expected to be. >> you use silence with children. he was the quiet type.

christians were arguably better off under saddam hussein, under moammar qaddafi, under hosni mubarak.led to the slaughtering of christians because it exacerbated it. democracy promotion is ideal on right and left. but not realistic. these strong men they ousted treated christians arguably better, same with bashar al-assad in syria. we're about to make another mistake. melissa: no matter how we got here, people don't dispute we're in a worse position. >> over a million christians in the middle east. now in are only 275,000. harris: yeah. tragedy has arrived no matter how we got there. pray for these people. >>> as fox business gets ready to air the fourth of those republican primary debates the democrat debate schedule is coming under scrutiny and drawing accusationizations that they might be trying to hide frontrunner hillary clinton. they held a democratic forum but so poorly publicized you may have missed it. there is democratic debate, on saturday night, saturday december 19th. the fourth debate before the primary season kicks off, set for sunday during the nfl playoffs. to be fair

she takes full ownership, that it was her idea to topple qaddafi.s the situation to create vacuum that isis uses as breeding ground and terrorist camp and republicans should press her harder on libya especially now. harris: for boko haram to fill the void and boko haram pledging allegiance to isis and now the all the scorpions are nesting together. i think it is fair to comments on both. i think republicans or critics if they have an argument make both. to pick one or the other i think is probably not in their best interests if they want to keep this conversation going against an opponent looks very likely to be the next democratic nominee if that is the road they want to go down. i have a lot of questions how libya was handled, particularly benghazi and what we're looking now with terrorists reaching out across nine countries with isis, so on and so forth. and what she would be doing differently. andrea: the last debate, not the one the past saturday, first one, hillary clinton claimed that libya was stable. the things she has said have gotten her

because that war that hillary clinton started, has escalated after she pushed to get rid of qaddafi.ds to own this. if republicans were smart rather than talk about server in the toilet and talk about hillary's war. she has to talk about the fact isis growing in libya is all her decision. remember she writes that in her book. as far as lindsey graham is concerned this is not making a lot of sense. graham and mccain are saying we have to remove assad and get arab sunni states to help us. sunni states will help us defeat sunni isis? i don't think so. if you want to go flatten them i think you could use, i don't know, 100,000 of troops. we need a difficult commander-in-chief who will not use half-measures in war and rules of engagement. these two never met a war they didn't like. until we have a plan how to replace assad i say no. harris: the plan to replace assad might look a lot like what happened with iraq. andrea: correct. harris: a lot to take. two things jump out, first of all, senator mccain sounds nd in the air. that sounds like a plan that would have been much had a year or so

in france, i mean after the qaddafi removal, the french, the popularity in france of that was quite high. hollande after mali where the french clearly took the lead in fighting islamic terrorism, hollande's profl went up. so this is an issue that the french people will rally around the president. but it also makes them a target internationally. and we've seen that not only in the attacks in paris but also, of course, in mali. >> rose: what is the debate, political debate in paris? >> well, i mean first of all, i would say that after these-- . >> rose: extreme right parties there. >> you certainly do. and you know, madame la pene and her front national party is polling over 30%. in a first round she would heads up do better in many polls against someone like sarkozy and that's new. >> rose: so they would put her in a runoff. >> that would potentially put her in a runoff. >> rose: president hollande. >> which she wouldn't win. i don't think there was anyway she would become president. but it's kind of like talking about trump in the united states. the more popular he s the more other candi

toxic to cat and dog impact also of what garlic with to bat for their blood finally be aware of the qaddafio cut talk is poisonous and can even be fatal for them in the drive to sherrard for having resisted temptation. >>reporter: here is a look at some of the store is about to arrive here on kron 4. >>reporter: the edge of the traveler early in the days you want americans to be extra attentive and oakland police said they arrested a personal interest in the murder of the artist killed while painting this narrow here in the south bay the rain makes a mess on the road from the valley floor to the santa cruz mountains to the man accused of murdering an oakland muralist has an outburst during the first court appearance a realistic by four warriors and berkeley gunshots on an east bay freeway police of not investigating after a bullet was found the car that was pulled over on i 80 targets in his doors open at 6:00 sharp this is the official kickoff of the holiday shopping season to use the black friday people here at the out but the more thousands of people stayed here and throughout the night.

we do not want to see the collapse of authority in damascus like we saw in libya after qaddafi.o we protect ourselves? is it through security and intelligence, or is it dealing with the middle east? richard: the short answer is you have to playoff that you have to play off -- you have to playoff that tear. sure, there is intelligence, there is homeland security. there are all the things you do to make yourself less vulnerable. this is going to be a war with multiple tools and multiple domains. to some extent it is going after that. to some extent it is dealing with the internal challenge, and dealing with our borders. tom: you interviewed henry kissinger at length as your cfr here it was a wonderful session. here is henry kissinger in his book "world order." noninterference in other countries, domestic affairs cannot serve as a governing principle because national loyalties represent deviations from the true faith. purity, not stability, is the guiding principle of this islamic state conception of world order." for the parents with kids in france and for all of france, how do we

for involvement to out of qaddafi in libya as well. gregg.gregg: let's turn to ryan more row, national security analyst for the clarion project. mr. more row, thank you for being with us. we began getting reports 10 or 15 minutes ago or al qaeda or al qaeda-linked group is claiming responsibility for this terrorist attack in mali. two hours ago it said looked to you like in fact it was work of al qaeda, though you couldn't rule out isis. what made you think that? >> stylistically seemed more like an al qaeda-type operation where they go in, not shouting about iraq and syria and allowing people they believe to be muslims to leave in order to say they're more humane toward muslims than isis. this is also an area that is considered an al qaeda stronghold, much more so than isis. i notice online, isis accounts i monitor weren't claiming responsibility. very same ones that claimed responsibility for terrorist attacks. that is what tipped me off. gregg: if this is indeed al qaeda or affiliate, what is their motivation? >> well there is idealogical

libya was still under qaddafi, many countries including the european union had a dirty deal with this guy. you have to accept, you are closing sub-saharan african refugees. to embark.allow them now you have lawlessness and they do embark. they still continue to come over the mediterranean. i think it in your future, weugees from ghana, senegal, will be less generous with african refugees sub-saharan african refugees than we used to because of the other syrians. let's go to this gentleman in the front row. as fast as we can. let's take the question. >> i am a 40 year analyst. i have a easy question for you. it seems the west in europe has been forced, just by numbers, to be reactive. how we get ahead of this power curve, address it in a humane way. on the issue of conspiracy theories. conspiracies, or at least talking points would have been floated, syria is actively egress of syrian sunnis so that one, he gets root of a problem, and two he can repopulate the areas with friendly peoples. >> which includes the christian minorities in syria. >> conspiracy theories are all over the place.

the fall of the islamic state around him, to be on the run and perhaps be pulled out of a hole like qaddafiype of justice from syrians as qualify. >> court of law to see justice served versus the summary execution by way of predator drone. >> sure. it would have been good to make him face down the families of his victims and to learn what we could from him but it was always unlikely that it would be possible to take him alive. i mean, the u.s. couldn't even rescue the hostages from raqqa unlikely they could have taken i didn't head john into custody. >> do you feel more should have been?1 done and this is really too little too late? >> absolutely more should have been done to rescue the hostages. the death of jihad john is not going to bring my friends back and it is too little too it late. >> what are your reflections when you see these attacks in paris wide scale attacks and violence that occurred. >> a tragedy but one that is likely to be repeated. it is likely there will be copycat attacks in weeks and months. isis has made it very clear that they want to launch attacks in europe and un