that's not qanon, right?e have seen is in the past few months where fox news tried -- did not legs. they found critical race theory, that was the big one, where critical race theory is a reason your kids don't like you. critical race theory is the reason your kids can't get into specific college or something. that's the overarching bogeyman. that's they can kick down the road. they are the big scary guy you need to defeat. that's what i've i realizet this was inevitable. the other thing is reading down -- i will gamblers remove his book, when you talk about nesara and talk about donald trump coming in using the same tactics, this was an inevitable thing. my favorite, several enough going into before qanon. there was high-level insider. there was another, everyone was highway patrolman anon. so 4chan saying they were these big pedophile rings. vacation make in this book is really clear is it wasn't q, who somebody else. somebody just, the language of 4chan was there is a cabal and hillary clinton is of it. q d

however, the impact of this was the qanon follower, all the qanon people who worked up about this and by the end of the week donald trump, jr. is tweeting about it. ted cruz is tweeting about it. while ted cruz isn't saying q is real and you need to follow all the q -- is amplified this one don't tweets from a qanon account and that's where it gets dangerous point that's what the policy i think starts to get scary, that you find a new bogeyman every week. these people are so trained in the idea of like there's this massive injustice in one day we have this redemption, very bloody redemption, that to me is where it gets messy. that's we get crusades, really scary stuff. before we close up, the ties to white supremacy and qanon. you talk about how close this is to true extremist movements like al-qaeda in the book. can you walk people through the close similarities to that and how these people, and how these groups operate generally? and also how q has in some cases morphed into that? >> q is, it has pieces of a lot of other things. there's elements of christian identity in it. there's

so part of it is, are they mentally ill and that's what attracted them to qanon o is being part of qanonecause it's very traumatic to consume the material that qanon keeps putting out there. >> and obviously we should point out mental illness doesn't lead to violence. most people who have mental health issues, it doesn't end up in violence like this crime. thank you. >>> the police chief in chicago tlingd death of one of his officers to what law enforcement authorities say are lax bail reform laws. what the evidence says when we continue. scuff defense. i love our scuff-free life. behr ultra scuff defense. exclusively at the home depot. why hide your skin if dupixent has your moderate-to-severe eczema, or atopic dermatitis under control? hide our skin? not us. because dupixent targets a root cause of eczema, it helps heal your skin from within, keeping you one step ahead of it. and for kids ages 6 and up, that means clearer skin, and noticeably less itch. hide my skin? not me. by helping to control eczema with dupixent, you can change how their skin looks and feels. and that's the kind o

so part of it is are they mentally ill and that's what attracted them to qanon or is being part of qanonmatic to consume the material that qanon keeps putting out there. >> yeah. and obviously we should point out mental illness does not lead to violence. most people who have mental health issues, it doesn't end up in violence like this sickening crime. mia bloom, i really appreciate it. thank you. just ahead, the police chief in chicago has linked the death of one of his officers to what law enforcement authorities say are lax bail reform laws. we'll have the debate on that and what the evidence says when we continue. today let's paint with behr ultra scuff defense... so that you can live that scuff-free life. honey, i'm home! honey! scuff defense. i love our scuff-free life. behr ultra scuff defense. exclusively at the home depot. you've been taking mental health meds, and your mind is finally in a better place. except now you have uncontrollable body movements called tardive dyskinesia - td. and it can seem like that's all people see. some meds for mental health can cause abnormal dopa

federal authorities claim a california father fatally stabbed his children because he followed a qanon conspiracy theory that made him believe his children were turning into monsters. matthew taylor coleman and his wife owned a surf school in santa barbara. pictures show a happy family. but on thursday, coleman's wife reported her husband and children missing. she told police the family was planning a trip but then her husband took the kids, not telling her where he was going. two days later, officials say a ranch worker in mexico found the bodies of the children near mexico's baja california coast. he claimed he's enlightened by qanon conspiracy theories, which made him think his wife passed the surpant to their children. a theory which claims powerful aliens have taken over in banking and entertainment. it allegedly inspired a man to set off a bomb in nashville last christmas, injuring eight people and damaging dozens of buildings. as for coleman, they released surveillance camera footage showing him checking in to a hotel with his kids, then leaving without them. he was arrested try

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a few months a few months ago the ago the fbi said that the fbi said that the qanon qanon conspiracy, the people that there is, believe that the the people world is run that believe that by satan the worship-ing the world is run by beautiful, could engage saying we're shaming pedophiles with real could violence with engage perceived members of the in real cabal. yesterday, violence. yesterday, a father who is affiliated with a california qanon is father was killed charged with with killing charging his killing his children . a criminal complaint alleges that he told the fbi that he believed that they were growing to grow into -- horrific. as a qanon follower, that man charged with murdering his two young children, believes the conspiracy that former president donald trump would bring this liberal say more shipping child sex trafficking ring to justice. so if there is one person who could properly persuade these people that their beliefs are wild and it is former president trump. instead he always plays coy,. during the pandemic, the qanon movement has been -- appears to be getting a

but this isn't the first time we've seen a suspected qanon follower go violent.authorities saying about the ongoing threat posed by conspiracy theorists. >> reporter: authorities and experts remain concerned about this movement. there's a lot we don't know about this specific suspect. we've reached out to his attorney for comment. we have not yet heard back. of course there is a concern that maybe mental health may be at play here. but this case illustrating what is concerning for law enforcement officials, and that is you could have adherents to these fringe movements like qanon that are predisposed to violence. it's worth noting, don, that the basis of this entire movement is this notion that somehow democrats and hollywood celebrities are preying on children, yet we see the hypocrisy here in this case where you have an alleged qanon adherent, someone who said he was enlightened by qanon, standing charged for the murder of his own two children. don. >> just awful. josh campbell, thank you so much. we'll be right back. use a lifto could new neutrogena® rapid fir

allegedly telling police he had been enlightened by qanon and conspiracy theories and he believed his josh campbell has more on this tragic story. and i want to warn you, the details are disturbing. >> reporter: two small children stabbed in the heart with a spear fishing gun. their own father allegedly leaving their bodies in a ditch in mexico. mexican authorities describing difficult details. >> translator: under the bushes they found the lifeless bodies of two children. one female, one male. authority say 40-year-old surf instructor matthew taylor coleman from santa barbara, california, confessed to murdering his 2-year-old son and 10-month-old daughter in mexico, telling the fbi he was driven to the killings after being enlightened by qanon, and ill loom nationali conspiracy theories. police were called in after the children were reported missing by their mother. authorities tracking him to mexico. surveillance video released by authority show coleman checking into a hotel with his children august 7th. just before 3:00 a.m. on august 9th, he packs them up and leaves the hotel. ret

he is a qanon influencer. and while his position, which i think he has since resigned on the council, the city council of huntington beach, california, may not seem all that impressive, these are the kinds of positions that people on the far right, more normalized far-right movements, this is how they find their way into republican politics, is by eliminating local seats. we've been watching allie alexander, one of the organizers of the so-called stop the steal movement which is the movement that was kind of an astroturf movement but with a lot of followers now. it alleges that the 2020 election the stolen from donald trump. and they had a lot to do with all the momentum for the insurrection. and then there is a post on pastor greg locke who is always kind of making very threatening remarks. now he has forbidden anybody from coming into his church wearing a mask. that gives you sort of a sampling of what we are up to and who we are looking at. host: what is the line between exposing extreme rhetoric and giving

he could have done that with qanon. but of course, he didn't.ficer who protected the capitol from ashli babbitt, as we talked about earlier. and so now, with the delta variant ravaging states where people overwhelmingly voted for him, trump could yell from every right-wing tv outlet in america about the importance of getting vaccinated. he could hold vaccination drives in those hardest hit states. in fact, the daily beast is reporting that some of his closest allies are begging him to mount some sort of pro-vaccine campaign. but the former president has shown little interest in tying his name to broader efforts to get people inoculated. which really should not be surprising. trump's callous inaction as president at the beginning of the pandemic led to hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths. "the washington post" writes that had the trump administration simply implemented mitigation guidelines by march 9th, approximately 60% of american covid deaths could have been avoided. during the pandemic, he held a number of superspreader events. he co

not listening to qanon. not listening to that single heckler in the crowd. . >> that was great, thank you both, i really appreciate it. tonight the pfizer vaccine becomes the first covid shot to get full fda approval. this might not sound like that big of a deal, millions of shots have been distributed after all. people have been getting it for about nine months. so it changes today. it could be a crucial turning point in the fight against the disease, let's hope, so i'll explain why, right after this break. break. isn't it disappointing when your plug-in fades? once that freshness goes away, you're left thinking, “okay....now what?” febreze fade defy plug works differently. it's the first plug-in with built-in technology... to digitally control how much scent is released... to smell 1st day fresh for 50 days. it even tells you when it's ready to be refilled. upgrade to febreze fade defy plug. hey, i just got a text from my sister. you remember rick, her neighbor? sure, he's the 76-year-old guy who still run

when we look at anti-vaccination sentiment and its roots in qanon, qanon which already had this deep fear of big pharma, this idea that elites were harvesting strange substances and trying to put it in their bodies or who knows what, these conspiracy theories. qanon is a fringe movement, a fringe movement that we know at this point in many ways drives the republican party. what you're saying resonates with me. i'm a vermonter, not a republican, but i appreciate my governor phil scott for giving me the best vaccination defense in the nation. not listening to qanon, not listening to that single heckler in the crowd. >> kristen soltis anderson, jeff charlotte, that was great. thank you both. >> thank you. >>> tonight, the pfizer vaccine becomes the first covid shot to get full fda approval. now this might not sound like that big of a deal, millions of shots have been dwiblted, after all, people have been getting it for the past nine months, so what changes today? it could be a crucial turning point in the fight against the disease. i'm going to explain why right after this break. don't

on august 13 or 14, just a few days from now, the qanon believers, which is now a substantial portion of the republican base, believe that donald trump will be reinstated as president through some magic that they only understand. when that doesn't happen, then what? >> well, nothing is going to happen here in august. you know, there's a substantial portion of the gun slinging conservatives base that really doesn't support qanon. even though, and i said this a year ago on this program, qanon would take over the republican ideology. and it has. even though they don't allow q shirts at trump rallies and things like that, the belief in the inherent evilness of all democrats and that that's a global cabal that must be destroyed by force of arms, that is now standard throughout the conservative base. so let me prognosticate a little bit more. the republican party -- you know, i used to joke that they were vanilla ices, all of these militia men. they were like isis. they were like al qaeda in the sense that they radicalized online, they would meet together in secret and they did all of these

qanon lies and people die. right now fueled in part by qanoned a heerps a massive covid-19 disinformation campaign is convincing americans in the to get vaccinated. it is time for the republican party to expunge these conspiracy theorists from their ranks for the sake of democracy. ranks for the sake of democracy. >> at long last we have a bill. after months of wrong lung, the senate has timely written the text of the bipartisan infrastructure bill, and based on the size of that stack, it will take some time to go through all of those pages to know what's in it, but whatever comes out of the senate will still have to get the support of house progressives. senate majority leader chuck schumer expects the bill to be completed in a matter of days. he says he'll then move immediately to the $3.5 reconciliation bill. house progress f-s won't support the bipartisan bill if reconciliation isn't also advanced so who better to turn to than the most two influential voices in the progressive caucus. democratic congresswom

them in a ditch in mexico telling investigators he did it for several reasons, including dna and the qanon and we must warn you the details of this story are disturbing. >> two small children stabbed in the heart with a spear fishing gun. their own father allegedly leaving their bodies in a ditch in mexico. mexican authorities describing difficult details. >> under the bushes they found the lifeless bodies of two children, one female, one male. >> reporter: authorities say 40-year-old surf sin structor matthew taylor coleman from santa barbara, coleman confessed to murdering he is 2-year-old son and 10-month-old daughter this week in mexico saying he was driven to the killings after being enlightened by qanon and illuminati conspiracy theories. police and federal agents were called in after the children were reported missing by their mother. authorities tracking coleman's cell phone to mexico. surveillance video images released by authorities show coleman checking into a hotel with his children august 7th. just before 3:00le on august 9th he packs them up and leaves the hotel, returning ho

qanon lies and people die.ow fueled in part by qanon adherents a massive covid-19 disinformation campaign is convincing americans not to get vaccinated. it is time for the republican party to expunge these conspiracy theorists from their ranks for the sake of democracy. >>> breaking news tonight the united states has crossed 36 million confirmed coronavirus cases including 1 million more cases in just the last eight days. delta is spreading like wild fire in a country where vaccine is free and has been available to all adults for months. quote, we are failing one another. that is how "usa today" described america's fourth covid surge on their cover this weekend with a map highlighting the devastating spread of the delta variant among states with high rates of unvaccinated people. the united states is now averaging more than 100,000 new cases of covid every day. that is the highest since february before the vaccines were widely available. this is nonsense. roughly 30% of the new coronavirus cases are coming from

. >>> qanon reappearing on a ballot near you. this is dangerous stuff. qanon lies and people die.ation campaign convinces americans not to get vaccinated. it's time for the republican party to expunge conspiracy theorists from their ranks for the sake of democracy. >>> this morning blocks are continuing to fall from underneath andrew cuomo. just over two hours the albany county sheriff is expected to hold a press conference after one of cuomo ace former arids filed an official criminal complaint against the governor. the woman identified at executive assistant one in the new york attorney general's report, told investigators that governor cuomo groped her multiple times, including at the governor's mansion in albany in 2019. and new year's eave when this sf was taken. she filed a criminal complaint earlier this week. important to note cuomo has not been charged with crimes. he has disputed the allegations and denied all wrong doing. joining me now is new york 1s news reporter gloria pasmino. what do we expect today >> it's a key development this this saga ali, because we are going

qanon lies and people die. now fueled in part by qanon adherence, a massive covid-19 disinformation campaign is convincing americans not to get vaccinated. it is time for the republican party to expunge these conspiracy theorists from their ranks. for the sake of democracy. >>> in the wee hours of the morning, senate democrats took an important step toward passing federal voting rights legislation. all 50 democrats, all of them, voted to move ahead on a revised version of democrats sweeping elections bill, the for the people act. it was mostly a symbolic move since a group of senate democrats are still finalizing revisions on the legislation that will reportedly include proposals introduced by the fourth guy on the top line there, senator joe manchin of west virginia. at 4:00 a.m. today, senator manchin pleaded with republican senators to join with democrats to protect voting rights, just as they did to pass the infrastructure bill. >> tonight i'm again voting to move that process forward because i believe that

i want to say quickly, there were two qanon incidents.ed his kids and there was the largest mass shooting in the u.k. in decades, and that guy was in trump's corner who believed himself to be an american at heart and he viewed that to be gun toting and believing in qanon and the pentagon is a ped fire. lone wolf terror is something to be worried about here, in part because there's no organizing event that these people can meet up, and maybe those things would defuse these things, but if they're the lone wolf, they can do it themselves. >>> one of the things we're watching for is we may finally get some sort of report, conclusion, announcement from the cyber ninjas who have been doing the b.s. audit in arizona. i'm warning you right now here on tv, when that happens, we're going to bring you back to talk about potential implications in terms of what to be watching for and how people are going to be reacting to that. >> i'm excited -- that's not the word. i'm something, rachel. thank you. >> this is the time for mad libs. i know what you me

shame on mark meadows for putting stuff like that out there. >> playing footsie with qanon conspiraciesally choosing his words, talking about the president is on task, talking about meeting with his cabinet? again, it seems very deliberate. as you say, joe, dangerous. >> john, he knows what he's saying. again, i know mark mediadows we. he's no dummy. he knows exactly what he's saying. and there's part of you that wants to believe that they're just pacifying donald trump and they're trying to appease donald trump, but, john, you nailed it. again, i hear from hundreds of his supporters every day. many of them -- i think a lot of people in the country don't realize this, because january 6th was such a shock. the threat of violence this month of august is real. many of his supporters believe he's going to be reinstated. it is beyond negligent for meadows to speak that way. >> we're also learning really the measures that tlump went to, to try to overturn -- the extremes he went to to try to overturn the 2020 election results, pressuring the then acting attorney general jeffrey rosen to decla

coleman stated qanon and other conspiracies in his confession, and he said it was the only action thatave the world. coleman and his wife run a popular surf school. neighbors say the family seemed normal and happy. >> it's actually shocking to hear. i had no idea that there were any issues. >>> a new health evaluation is in the works, jose garcia is still in federal custody on charges tied to the shooting. he has been unwilling follow legal advice to plead not guilty. pier 14 shooting became a flash point in the immigration debate. he had been deported five times to his native mexico and was awaiting another deportation. in court he claims he had no idea that he was holding a gun that he said he found was wrapped in a t-shirt under a bench. >>> and then a state supreme court declined to consider reducing or powers. two assemblymen petitioned for the court to review that, and the court concluded the governor is acting within his authority. >>> oakland losing another team before hitting the field, and the oakland panthers held tryouts to start playing in the indoor football league in 202

what would you be saying to your house republican colleagues who are engaging in this qanon?well, first of all, i think they lose sight sometimes. the pursuit of power just for the sake of it is a disgrace. you need to put your country first. and i wish that more people in the caucus, for example, who had said we need to have a full investigation of january 6th. i mean, you see these reports of these police officers. just one i saw the other night where he smashed in the door and being sprayed with tear gas from his own canister. it's really frightening. but the other thing that i would like to bring to your attention is i remember distinctly that there were a handful of people who were up in michigan hiding in the woods and they ended up getting together and they moved and they blew up the oklahoma city -- the oklahoma city building. i'll never forget that day. so we've got to watch everything across the board. and that's why we need a robust intelligence community that could keep their eye on these radicals. and infiltrate them if necessary. >> all right. david axelrod, joh

this was a month that qanon and qanon like people there was an idea that former president trump wouldn office and there was resonance, friday the 13th came and went, it didn't happen. you would think these misses by these grifters, if you will on social media would give them less influence, are you seeing that or not? >> no, what changed is the social media platforms. telegram is where you go to get an understanding of what is going for domestic extremism on the far right. the hardest thing that i have seen is on some of the far right the open support of the taliban. one of the craziest phenomenons that i have seen. >> what's the rational? >> it is that they are god faring, god believing, conservative, and a masoganist angle. they speaking out in unity with the tal back. al taliban. >> that atortarian streak, i guess, that is a dotted line from praising vladimir putin to praising the taliban. my word. clint watts, as always, good to have your expertise on the air, thank you. >> we're all awaiting president biden's remarks and the evacuation in afghanistan. we'll go to live to the whit

qanon conspiracy theorists pushed this the day he would be president again. you may trump himself in june said he expected to be reinstated by august. and there are others. >> donald trump will be back in office in august. >> he's coming back interest he can come back as soon as -- >> before the middle of august. >> so august 13th to the other dates that were supposed to mark trump's come back, january 20th day, trump would be sailing in. march 4th which came and went with nothing. here we are again. thanks so much for joining us. at 360 starts now. >>> good evening, we begin with breaking news, a new terrorism bulletin from the department of homeland security. it highlights the potential for violence surrounding the upcoming 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. what seems to distinguish it, though, from similar alerts in the past, it draws on domestic factors, quoting the intelligence chief, quote, you have to pay attention to that we are see figure front of our face. so what is he talking about when he says they are seeing what is if front of their face? >

last week, a guy killed his kids and described it to qanon, and the largest mass shooting in the u.k.hat guy was a trump supporter who believed himself to be an american at heart, and he viewed that to be like gun touting and believing in qanon and the idea that the government is filled with pedophiles or something, so lone wolf terror is something to be worried about here in part because there is no organizing event that these people can meet up and, you know, maybe those things would diffuse these things, but in they're lone wolfes, they can do it themselves. >> ben, one of the things we're watching for in coming days, we are expecting, you mentioned the audit from the 2020 election. we're expecting that we may finally get some kind of report, some sort of conclusion, some sort of the announcement from the cyber ninjas who have been doing the bs audit in arizona. i'm warning you on tv, when that happens, we're going to bring you back to potential implicationings in terms of how people are going to react to that. >> i'm excited, that's not the word, i'm something, rachel, but thank y

there were two qanon terror attacks last week. his kids, and there was the largest mass shooting in the uk, in decades. and that guy was a trump supporter, who believed himself to be an american a heart. and he viewed that to be believing and qanon in the idea the government is filled with pedophiles or something. lone wolf terror, is something to be worried about. here in part because there's no organizing events, that these people up and maybe those things would defuse these things, but if their lone wolves they'll do it themselves. >> then one of the things we're be watching for in the coming days, is that we are expecting, as you mentioned, the audit from the 2020 election, we're expecting that we may finally get some sort of reports, some sort of conclusion, some sort of announcement from the cyber ninjas who have been doing the bs audit in arizona. i'm just warning you right now here on tv, that when that happens, we are going to bring you back to talk about what we ought to be watching for in terms of how people will be rea

. >> you are saying insupportable to the way we deal with qanon, the big lie, so on. spoke about that with us a while ago. here's part of what he said about that. watch. >> if you have a family member or friend that was a qanon supporter, they were not very nice to you for the last couple of years. they may have said they wanted to say things to you that were cruel. to bring these people back will take a lot of personal courage. frankly, if you don't have it in, yet i understand. this is a moment where deprogramming is consistently say in this sort of shock, you can take two paths here. one of the pass gets people back into regular active society. hopefully, if you have a big enough hard for this, god bless you. you can do it right now. it is a real opportunity. >> what do you make in terms of that opportunity when working, with conspiracy theories and the like to try to mend some of these fences. >> that's a really good question. i am kind of love the mind that, because a lot of these conspiracies are tied so much to the community of people, the conspiracists are no

they realized it was just like lindell saying this and mike lindell, even among the most die hard qanon trump supporters, is losing a lot of support recently. they realized it was just him saying this, there was nobody in trump's orbit saying this. the dog whistle is still out there. donald trump is still kind of dog whistling that he's going to reinstated somehow, saying he might come back sooner than 2024 or something like that. the worry is not that sort of thing. the worry is the violence when people get desperate. you're already seeing with qanon supporters, you could see it with others very soon. >> gentlemen, thanks for helping us out this evening. ben rhodes, ravi perry, ben collins, a pleasure to speak with you this evening. >>> coming up, delta is already wreaking havoc on the new school year. for what you need. hot dog or... chicken? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ so, you have diabetes, here are some easy rules. no sugar. no pizza. no foods you love. stressed? no stress. exercise. but no days off! easy, no? no. no. no. no. but with freesty

it was a story that went around of an individual caught up in qanon and really a kind of an anti-covidination activist. falsely claiming it's a hoax and putting out misinformation of the vaccine and he died. nobody here, anybody with a heart is rooting for anything other than every one's health. as someone who covers fact and science, i would prefer that he was alive to attack facts than that he died another needless death. these are tragedies. it also generates a kind of an attention amidst the community, the information and misinformation community he was engaged in because sadly like some sort of, he dies of the thing. i'm curious where you think that fits into this. rooting for every one's health. this thing is spreading in a way the people who are publicly, loudly, proudly unvaccinated are in the line of fire. >> a lot of the people who are against vaccination, i think are not particularly anti-science. i think they are angry people. most of them voted for trump. trump has knack of taking advantage of people's grievances and their anger and they gave up their a agency to trump. mo

she was 35 years old, an air force veteran, trump supporter, and qanon follower we see your arm out there for a consider aabmount of time were you wavering? >> i was taking a tactical stance. you ultimately are hoping that your commands will be complied with, and unfortunately, they were not >> when you fired, what could you see? where were you aiming? >> you're told to aim for center mass. the subject was sideways, and i could not see her full motion of her hands or anything so i guess her movement, you know, caused the discharge to fall where it did >> and what did you think this individual was doing at that point? >> she was posing a threat to the united states house of representatives. >> but an attorney for ashli babbitt's family disputes that. he did not respond to our request for a comment, but in a previous statement said babbitt was not brandishing a weapon, not in close proximity to members of congress, and was not an imminent threat of death or serious injury to anyone her family points out she was not armed. >> that's correct. >> the fact you weren't aware whether she was arme

what you're saying feels like it's applicable to the way we deal with deep conspiracies like qanon andins spoke with us about that a little while ago. here's part of what he said about that. watch. >> if you have a family member or friend that was a qanon supporter, they were not very nice to you for the last couple of years. they may have said that they wanted to save you but they were very cruel. so bringing those people back is going to take a lot of personal courage. and frankly, if you don't have it in you, i understand. but this is a moment where deprogrammers consistently say in this sort of shock you can take two paths here. one of the paths gets people back into regular active society. hopefully -- you know, if you have a big yuf heart for this god bless you, but you can do it right now. there's a real opportunity. >> what do you make of that in terms of the opportunity now when we're confronted with conspiracy theories and the like to try to mend some of these fences? >> yeah. that's a really good question. i'm kind of of the mind that because a lot of these conspiracies are

she was 35 years old, an air force veteran, trump supporter and qanon follower. >> we see your arm outavering? >> i was taking a tactical stance. you ultimately are hoping that your commands will be complied with and, unfortunately, they were not. >> when you fired, what could you see? where were you aiming? >> you're told to aim for center mass. the subject was sideways and i could not see her full motion of her hands or anything. so i guess her movement caused the discharge to fall where it did. >> and what did you think this individual was doing at that moment? >> she was posing a threat to the united states house of representatives. >> reporter: but an attorney for ashli babbitt's family disputes that. he did not respond to our request for a comment, but in a previous statement said babbitt was not brandishing a weapon, not in close proximity to members of congress and was not an imminent threat of death or serious injury to anyone. >> her family points out that she was not armed. >> that's correct. >> the fact that you weren't aware whether she was armed or not, did that alter the

. >> next on booktv journalist mike rothschild reports on qanon. amy sohn looks at the life of making surges postal inspector anthony comstock and later podcast host ben shapiro argues the progressive left is pushing an authoritarian agenda in america. find more schedule information at booktv.org or consult your program guide. here's mike rothschild. >> i am julia, bookseller with politics and prose. we are live with mike rothsn ben collins discussing "the storm is upon us: how qanon became a movement, cult, and conspiracy theory of everything." you can follow the link posted in the chat to purchase a book

he is a qanon influencer.nd while his position, which i think he has since resigned on the council, the city council of huntington beach, california, may not seem all that impressive, these are the kinds of positions that people on the far right, more normalized far-right movements, this is how they find their way into republican politics, is by eliminating local seats. we've been watching allie alexander, one of the organizers of the so-called stop the steal movement which is the movement that was kind of an astroturf movement but with a lot of followers now. it alleges that the 2020 election the stolen from donald trump. and they had a lot to do with all the momentum for the insurrection. and then there is a post on pastor greg locke who is always kind of making very threatening remarks. now he has forbidden anybody from coming into his church wearing a mask. that gives you sort of a sampling of what we are up to and who we are looking at. host: what is the line between exposing extreme rhetoric and giving i

. >>> coronavirus cases are surging across the country, that's not stopping politicians like the qanonike marjorie taylor greene for pushing dangerous information of the very things that experts say will help keep us safe. here is what she said today. >> i am completely against masks and vaccines. the vaccines are failing. >> i don't need to tell you that's not true. you know that's not true. the science is clear, vaccines save lives and help stop the spread. good evening. thank you sir, let's talk about marjorie taylor greene bringing her antivaccine message to iowa. do people on the ground believe all of her misinformation? >> reporter: greene does this thing where she preface her statement on the she goes on monologues attacking vaccines. that's a message that's resonating with reporters here. have a listen. >> reporter: would you consider getting the vaccine if more business where you can only go into a restaurant if you have proof of a vaccine? >> no. this is america. we are a free country and free people. we have the right to decide what goes on with our bodies and mandatory vacc

i think it is an unpredictable moment in terms of people going down the qanon, trump election fraud rabbits next few days will be hard. the rest of the month will be hard but the next few months will be hard for them. watching it closely enough to recognize that, you know, it really is like a visit to earth two. pitiful and sad and ridiculous. it may drive consequences for people who have really been living this fantasy. but it is also driving real live events here on earth one. today citizens of mesa county, colorado, just found out they'll have to foot the bill for the elections equipment in their county. thousand and thousands of dollars. of otherwise sound equipment. something that is not that old. some of it is not that old that now has to be decertified and cannot be used again because there's an elected county clerk in mesa county, colorado, who wanted to earn her way into a day one appearance at mike lindell's cyber symposium. a secretary of state investigation in colorado has found passwords for this local voting equipment in mesa county, colorado, were photographed and posted onl

authorities say coleman stated qanon and other conspiracies in his confession.aid he knew it was wrong, but, quote, it was the only action that would save the world. unquote. coleman and his wife run a popular surf school, and neighbors say the family seemed normal and happy. >> it's actually mentally shocking to hear, and i had no idea there were any issues. >> coleman is being held in a los angeles jail. >>> and robert durst testified on his murder trial, admitting he lied to the police on the night of his wife's disappearance. los angeles prosecutors are presenting evidence he killed her and then killed best friend inn an suv near the nation's capitol, and it landed underwater inside a massive water-filled road in prince georges county outside in d.c. it's not clear if the sinkhole appeared swallowing the suv. >>> you may recall l.a. county recently becoming the first in the state to issue a indoor mask mandate as the delta variant surged. many are wondering if it helped slow the transmission rate. data shows new cases may be starting to level off. take a loo

we have colleagues who have partaken of qanon type ideology, and colleagues have promoted conspiracy theories. we clearly have colleagues who were out speaking to what quickly became the mob. the president's lawyers at the impeachment trial originally refused to use the word insurrection. they called it in one letter to us the action of january 6. by the end of the trial, i think the lawyers recognized their mistake and they did talk about insurrectionary violence and they were denouncing it, and they were condemning it. and i gladly embrace that, but i said i would like to hear the same thing from president trump himself. it would be good to know that this was not just a courtroom maneuver, but this was really trump's position that he denounced the violence, that he had clearly incited. but we never heard that. the proud boys or the oath keepers, what we got from president trump was that his conduct was perfectly appropriate, which means he would do it again. he would do exactly what he did again, if given the opportunity. >> across the chamber was republican representative fitzpatr

what does it mean in terms of those other extremists who are members of qanon? we going to coddle folk who hold these sort of views, even though they're among our ranks, or are we going to say who they are and what they've done? i think what adam swerver has said in this important piece is precisely right. they had a chance, but it presumes, the chance presumes that the organization is willing to call out those who actually hold the views that are problematic in the first place, nicolle. >> commissioner bratton, your name was invoked. i will give you the last word. >> well, i wish that the profession, if you will, would be as condemning of the events of january 6th as they were certainly of the murder of george floyd and the actions of that police officer. good news is that the leadership of american policing, major city chiefs, the vast, vast majority of them are speaking out. they may be speaking in a different way than some of the union leadership, but the good news is that american policing when push comes to shove will effectively, as i have talked about, c

all documents referring and relating to qanon, proud boy, stop the steel, the 3 percenters all concerning20 results. here is another thing they are requesting. all documents and communications related to the mental stability of donald trump or his fitness for office. i will ask you first and then frank what all that says to you. >> that may be a lot of documents. i think this is really significant. i think it underscores the seriousness of the inquiry that the january 6th commission is looking at. when you view it in light of yesterday's order which was to a bunch of telephone companies to require them to preserve all their electronic data about communications involving january 6th, including with members of congress. it's significant. we haven't had a hearing since the police officer's testified about this which was so moving. i think the investigators have taken a pause and said what do we now need to know. i think the most significant thing you see in today's request is it gets to the heart of something that you and i have both talked about in the past of fear that donald trump used th

how are we doing this qanon? is there a microphone going around? >> i, i have a proposal for nancy spanish, i run an american system blog on hamilton. the proposal for a substitute for the word finance credit since hamilton's work was all devoted to the idea of public a credit, and i suggest that that gives a higher concept to the kinds of machinations that he was carrying out because the purpose of the credit of wedding the financial cross -- class to the government was to develop the country. he had tremendous support from some working class peoples, as you know from the constitutional activities in new york here. the great ship hamilton that was sent down the broadway in support of the constitution. because it was going to build the country. that is what i would suggest. >> yeah, i think credit is a better word. i'm not sure there is going to sell accompli of my book necessarily, but i agree that it is the more accurate term. >> was hamilton a bond holder himself? >> you know, this is a really -- i'm glad this came out, actually. people spent a