this mustsay, qed, have gotten done and it is all ok. but it does not work that way.all kind of squishiness about numbers, even if they are audited numbers. i am hoping that people will ask harder questions about what is the potential of this revenue coming back in the next quarter? those are the kinds of questions that should get asked. no you have people defending themselves and saying, well, how were we to know? look at the representation from the audit firm. how were we to know that was not legitimate revenue? >> that is like him ba, saying how was i supposed to know? well i believe paul kedrosky. thank you very much. -- going from the lacrosse field of yale to the c suite of china's against e-commerce giant. we look at one of the key figures in alibaba's ipo. ♪ >> i'm cory johnson and this is "bloomberg west." e-commerce giant alibaba will go public -- it could be one of the biggest ipo's ever. not just contact, but ever. behind the company there is , who hasrman joe tsai been instrumental in growing the company's fortune. by more on tsai, i am joined leslie pick