queenan: don't be that evil. part of the promise of globalization, and i hear it all the time, is that ultimately, the market economy is going to bring freedom to people. i always say, "tell that to the enslaved africans who toiled in capitalist america." it doesn't necessarily bring freedom to anybody. and i think we're kind of in the situation we were with child labor in the 19th century. it's a race to the bottom unless somebody says "stop," and you get enough people along with you to agree to that. and that's why i think betsy's idea of an industry standard would be the way to go. we've stopped economic growth many times historically, and we might do it again. - but wealth-- - child labor is necessary for economic growth? wealthier is healthier, wealthier is cleaner, wealthier eventually leads to more freedom. we're not going to change the world tomorrow. but american corporations and corporations more generally, start a process. - it doesn't get to perfection. - we're not in complete disagreement. what i'm j